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15 hours ago, ewsieg said:

I'm not trying to both sides this as we both will agree which side is the far bigger threat to our democracy, but please remember you guys ran a guy that couldn't meet with more than 1 person in his administration for his last 2 years and the one time he has to be in front of the cameras, he completely fell apart, leading to the party scrambling for option 2 with very little time to allow that option to define themselves (and definitely no time for the party to agree on who would be a best 2nd option.  

The fractured nature of the political opposition to this current nuttery is def a problem.   I hope a bright light answer emerges by Nov 2028.  

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9 minutes ago, romad1 said:

The fractured nature of the political opposition to this current nuttery is def a problem.   I hope a bright light answer emerges by Nov 2028.  

Your statement really applies beyond politics as well.

The American public is more wise to this administration than the elites are... Yet the elites keep aquiescing anyway. Media, very smart pundits (ie. Ezra Klein, Yglesias, etc.) law firms, universities, corporations.

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1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

Your statement really applies beyond politics as well.

The American public is more wise to this administration than the elites are... Yet the elites keep aquiescing anyway. Media, very smart pundits (ie. Ezra Klein, Yglesias, etc.) law firms, universities, corporations.

almost as if the people that pay them are in a file of some sort that could prove embarrassing. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

To this end

the problem is that CEOs are spineless by design because they will *always* sublimate what they know they should do with the excuse that they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders not to. Don't bother looking to that quarter for anything but leaked stories of self-justifying angst.

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1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

the problem is that CEOs are spineless by design because they will *always* sublimate what they know they should do with the excuse that they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders not to. Don't bother looking to that quarter for anything but leaked stories of self-justifying angst.

Oh I know... Even though collective action would probably be better for business in the long run

Posted
16 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Oh I know... Even though collective action would probably be better for business in the long run

"Collective action" is for communists.

Collusive action, however ...

Posted
18 hours ago, chasfh said:

The criteria being considered here were (1) not a moron, and (2) follow the law. Biden was both.

I agree, just wish we could have had a criteria called 3) electability.... definitely feel like that might have been able to keep us from this current debacle.

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2 hours ago, ewsieg said:

I agree, just wish we could have had a criteria called 3) electability.... definitely feel like that might have been able to keep us from this current debacle.

Isn’t the problem that Trump was electable after all?

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Posted
30 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

he's been messing up the Albania/Armenia thing up for quite a while now.

Probably since ninth grade world history.

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2 hours ago, romad1 said:

Trump Claims Excessive Criticism of Him on TV Is ‘Illegal’ and ‘No Longer Free Speech’

 

If people think there’s no way they would ever come after us here, in this forum, for things we’re saying today—and stretching ten years into the past—then they’re just whistling past the graveyard. Even MTS’s archives exist somewhere. If the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine can make snapshots available to us, then someone has the whole thing. So it’s probably too late for a lot of us.

Oh well—we might as well as continue to hang together before we hang separately. 

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This thread is interesting because I remember the days when I brought up Biden's mental impairments - which were proven to be true by the way.  All I heard from the far lefties on this forum is I have no right to question Biden's mental state or lack of one because I wasn't a doctor.  So am I supposed to believe you all have medical degrees and are now doctors?   The comedy of MTF political section is priceless. 

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1 hour ago, Archie said:

This thread is interesting because I remember the days when I brought up Biden's mental impairments - which were proven to be true by the way.  All I heard from the far lefties on this forum is I have no right to question Biden's mental state or lack of one because I wasn't a doctor.  So am I supposed to believe you all have medical degrees and are now doctors?   The comedy of MTF political section is priceless. 

Joe may have been slowing down, but the comparison to Trump isn’t apples to oranges, it’s watermelons to raisins. 
On his very best day, the Orange Man who shall remain nameless has never had an actual educated understanding of foreign affairs, domestic policy, or humanitarian endeavors and how these policies shape our world militarily, politically, and financially…. And all three also needed a good dose of empathy to garner the highest level of success for/and/to ALL entities involved in this world.

And,  no one can tell me otherwise, without a giant smirk on their face, that they think the Donald’s rants are anything but incredibly embarrassing and mostly populated with a ridiculous amount of straightout lies of the  stupidest nature.

if you were sitting in a board room, and this was your manager, and he was popping off with the dumb ass reason Dijour of why you should fall to your knees and kiss his ass, I believe 98% of you would pull your knees off the floor brush them off turn around and leave the room. But for some reason, you’re all hanging in with this nonsense that’s going on. 

Tis a puzzlement….  as the king of Siam would say. 
surely there has to be a limit to what you’re willing to incorporate into your psyche when you know they are nothing but lies. Surely there must truly be a straw that will break the camels back.

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It's all about the dineros. The oligarchs are raking it in. Rich get richer the middle class gets screwed. 
 

And all those good Christians keep forgetting the parable of the camel. 

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1 hour ago, Archie said:

This thread is interesting because I remember the days when I brought up Biden's mental impairments - which were proven to be true by the way.  All I heard from the far lefties on this forum is I have no right to question Biden's mental state or lack of one because I wasn't a doctor.  So am I supposed to believe you all have medical degrees and are now doctors?   The comedy of MTF political section is priceless. 

Dear Archief

Biden isn't president

You're welcome

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Posted
12 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

It's all about the dineros. The oligarchs are raking it in. Rich get richer the middle class gets screwed. 
 

And all those good Christians keep forgetting the parable of the camel. 

The what class?

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