9/26/25 7:10 pm Tigers @ Red Sox

[Arlington]

27 minutes ago, buddha said:

last year they had a horseshoe up their butts for the final 40 games.  this year the exact opposite.

baseball is a funny ol game.

Seems like most games were decided this year by the 7th inning, even when they were hot.  The tenacious, pull out a win, not until the last strike spirit of the club is gone.  Maybe they need a shock this year to mature and advance next year.  They have reinforcements coming through  the system.  They have a number 1 pitching prospect in Jobe.

Trade Skubal.  Possibly back to back Cy Young but he only has 13 wins.  If you look at it as replacing 13 wins it seems simple. There are 10 pitchers with more wins and four more with 13.  There are 14 pitchers who contributed to his teams record as well or better than Skubal.  It's easier to pull the trigger when you consider what the lost to the team would be versus what it would gain. 

Green is 25.  He needs a talking to.  Maybe someone should put together a video of how many games he could have won. Let him listen to the fans and the announcer's disappointment as he kills another rally.  Also, I still think we should break his legs and let him learn to run all over.  

I could give on Parker too.  Dynamite player when all is working for him, but as a pro minor and majors, too much time has been given to him to work it out. Too many miserable returns from the IL.  Ask what would Tampa Bay do with him.  

Edited September 27 by Arlington

[holygoat]

This effing team. 

[lordstanley]

3-2 Houston in the 5th, the Angels have the tying run at 2nd. 

[IdahoBert]

Harris is used to being the smartest guy in the room. And I don’t doubt that that’s true, but that can come back to bite you.

The way these guys who performed great earlier in the year have fallen off is not Harris‘s fault. I don’t know if it’s the coaching staff’s fault either. Players constantly have to make adjustments.

Players also have to be coachable. Riley is just plain stubborn, even clueless.

The way he deals with interviews is at times unprofessional. Maybe I’m expecting too much from him. He’s just an athlete. He’s not a Rhodes Scholar. 

[Shinzaki]

This team went from gritty to brittle really quickly. The smoke cleared, the mirrors cracked and here we are..

[lordstanley]

Angels have tied Houston 3-3 in the 7th. 

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, buddha said:

they deserve to lose given the hubris they showed at the trade deadline.

it was either hubris or stupidity.  i'm not buying the illitch spending argument.  i more buy the harris arrogance and inexperience argument.

I tend to buy the "asking price was way too high" argument.

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

One could say that he's so focused on his long-term plan that he can't make adjustments when given a current opportunity to win.  

One could also say Harris is focused enough on his long-term plan that he refuses to throw it all away to shift his focus to win this year or bust.

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I’m 95% on board with trying to trade him this offseason to sell high and get multiple ML capable players

I'm totally on board with selling Riley high to get multiple multiple above average big league players. I think everyone would be on board with that.

Speaking only for myself, what I am not on board with is selling low for whatever big league players we can get for Riley because we hate that he doesn't shorten up his swing with two strikes.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

One could also say Harris is focused enough on his long-term plan that he refuses to throw it all away to shift his focus to win this year or bust.

Did they need to throw it all away in order to make imporvements this year?

[Biff Mayhem]

15 hours ago, holygoat said:

This effing team. 

100%. 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I'm totally on board with selling Riley high to get multiple multiple above average big league players. I think everyone would be on board with that.

Speaking only for myself, what I am not on board with is selling low for whatever big league players we can get for Riley because we hate that he doesn't shorten up his swing with two strikes.

I am not attached to Greene.  He's a good player, but not a diiference maker.  I would NOT trade him for a bunch of pretty good prospects. I would trade him for Chet Lemon, but there aren't a lot of trades like that anymore.    Most deals now involve established major leaguers for prospects, so I don't see a trade for multiple average players.  

Edited September 27 by Tiger337

[monkeytargets39]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I'm totally on board with selling Riley high to get multiple multiple above average big league players. I think everyone would be on board with that.

Speaking only for myself, what I am not on board with is selling low for whatever big league players we can get for Riley because we hate that he doesn't shorten up his swing with two strikes.

Yeah I don’t want to give him away, but if we can add some legit pitching prospects and shore up 3B or SS by trading him—I’d do it.

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Yeah I don’t want to give him away, but if we can add some legit pitching prospects and shore up 3B or SS by trading him—I’d do it.

I don’t think a guy coming off a 2.3-win season nets us a legit pitching prospect and an above average third basemen or shortstop—even if he is under control for three more years.

[buddha]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

I tend to buy the "asking price was way too high" argument.

i tend to buy the "youre overrating your own prospects" argument combined with the "you only have so many years with skubal so try to win with him" argument more.

[monkeytargets39]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I don’t think a guy coming off a 2.3-win season nets us a legit pitching prospect and an above average third basemen or shortstop—even if he is under control for three more years.

I feel like that he’s under 25 is valuable.  There wouldn’t be many similar commodities out there on the market.

[chasfh]

5 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I feel like that he’s under 25 is valuable.  There wouldn’t be many similar commodities out there on the market.

Maybe. You have point—at least as far as that goes, anyway, ‘cause ain’t no way we’re trading him.

[Biff Mayhem]

On 9/26/2025 at 7:12 PM, Edman85 said:

Watch Severance while you are at it.

I made note of this and for some reason thought it was “Ascension” rather than “Severance”. I got about halfway through the first episode of “Ascension” and the terrible soap opera acting was unpalatable and I couldn’t understand why you recommended the show. 
 

Turns out you didn’t! 🤣 I’ll put Severance in the queue. 

[gehringer_2]

On 9/27/2025 at 5:37 PM, chasfh said:

I don’t think a guy coming off a 2.3-win season nets us a legit pitching prospect and an above average third basemen or shortstop—even if he is under control for three more years.

And Riley's Dwar has taken a bigger hit than his OWar. i think there is a reasonable chance he can clean up his offensive approach in the off-season - if he's willing, but it might be tougher to get back that 22 yr old magic in the OF, especially in a guy that has to get all his credit catching the ball since his arm has always been a noodle.