10/2/25 3:08 pm Tigers @ Guardians AL Wild Card Game 3

[IdahoBert]

Just now, oblong said:

Hell yeah let the Yanks win. They can then beat Toronto. We can beat Seattle.  We know how Tigers/Yankees in the playoffs turn out. 

I think this is correct. 

[Sports_Freak]

13 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

After it became available on mlb.tv, I revisited the Tigers seventh inning and the Guardians ninth and those guys in the Cleveland dugout were a sad looking crew. As were their fans. 

 

4 hours ago, MotownWebGuy said:

Like this? 😅😅😅

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, IdahoBert said:

I think this is correct. 

So incredibly hard to even get to a World Series. But hey, someone gets to win it, why not us?

[IdahoBert]

6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

 

Like this? 😅😅😅

I didn’t feel all that bad for the fans. I don’t dislike them personally, but I didn’t feel all that bad for the fans. I found their joy annoying, which may not reflect well upon me.

But I actually felt bad for the Cleveland players who’ve been flying so high they should all have nosebleeds. They played magic baseball for the last month of the season and they overcame a lot of adversity.

But it’s a zero sum game. I’m much happier my team won than their’s did. I am so relieved. They finally put together a good game. 

[tiger2022]

The Yankees lineup yesterday had 8 guys with 20+ home runs and the 9th guy had 19.

[lordstanley]

So the remaining 8 teams are:

Toronto

Seattle

New York Yankees

Detroit

Milwaukee

Philadelphia

Chicago Cubs

LA Dodgers

This to me feels like a just result, the proper eight teams taking the season as a whole. 

[Sports_Freak]

31 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

I didn’t feel all that bad for the fans. I don’t dislike them personally, but I didn’t feel all that bad for the fans. I found their joy annoying, which may not reflect well upon me.

But I actually felt bad for the Cleveland players who’ve been flying so high they should all have nosebleeds. They played magic baseball for the last month of the season and they overcame a lot of adversity.

But it’s a zero sum game. I’m much happier my team won than their’s did. I am so relieved. They finally put together a good game. 

Their fans really irritated me. So much, I had to mute the TV several times over the 3 games. So I didn't just not feel bad for them, i actually enjoyed them being in emotional pain. And the players? After all their stupid luck in a few of their wins, they deserved to have us crush their spirit. That game against Skubal where they scored 3 runs without getting the ball out of the infield blew any pity I ever may feel for them. Screw their stupid lucky a$$e$. But yeah, that probably says more about me, too.

[papalawrence]

With the days off, if it goes 5, Skubal could potentially pitch game 2 on Sunday and game 5 on Friday. 

Looks like Keith and perhaps Vierling may be active vs Seattle. Olson not expected unless they reach the WS, and even that's not certain.

Detroit Tigers injury updates: Colt Keith, Matt Vierling, Reese Olson https://share.google/qUvcR9GHAUyTx8J7F

Edited October 3 by papalawrence

[IdahoBert]

I’m glad the Mets didn’t make it anywhere. The Mets went 38-55 from June 13 onward, and finished 7-14 in their final 21 games. $765 million to Soto and and barely a .500 team. Neither did the Phillies.  No Houston no Rangers. My cup runneth over.

I guess dancing on the graves of other teams and their fan bases is a bad thing to do but the fact that my team is moving on does bring me joy, even a kind of malevolent joy.

[4hzglory]

5 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

I’m glad the Mets didn’t make it anywhere. The Mets went 38-55 from June 13 onward, and finished 7-14 in their final 21 games. $765 million to Soto and and barely a .500 team. Neither did the Phillies.  No Houston no Rangers. My cup runneth over. 

The Phillies won the NL East and play the Dodgers in the NLCS.

[IdahoBert]

14 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

The Phillies won the NL East and play the Dodgers in the NLCS.

HA! well, I guess it’s 5:30 in the morning and I’m delusional. I’m celebrating prematurely after four hours sleep. I guess I’m guilty of wish fulfillment. 

[IdahoBert]

I do wish ill for the Phillies though. Almost enough to root for the Dodgers, but I wish both teams could lose.

[IdahoBert]

I never got around to posting this photo. 

[casimir]

9 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

But I actually felt bad for the Cleveland players who’ve been flying so high they should all have nosebleeds. They played magic baseball for the last month of the season and they overcame a lot of adversity.

@oblong has commented on this, too.  The Guardians deserve a lot of credit for how they finished the season.

Edited October 3 by casimir

[Motor City Sonics]

9 hours ago, lordstanley said:

So the remaining 8 teams are:

Toronto

Seattle

New York Yankees

Detroit

Milwaukee

Philadelphia

Chicago Cubs

LA Dodgers

This to me feels like a just result, the proper eight teams taking the season as a whole. 

I still remember as a kid getting my first pack of 1977 baseball cards and seeing Toronto Blue Jays?    Seattle Mariners?  What the heck?  Who are these teams?     Al Ackerman didn't exactly cover the baseball expansion on the 8 minute sports update.  We had no ESPN, I had no idea that those two  new teams were coming.   

[IdahoBert]

11 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I still remember as a kid getting my first pack of 1977 baseball cards and seeing Toronto Blue Jays?    Seattle Mariners?  What the heck?  Who are these teams?     Al Ackerman didn't exactly cover the baseball expansion on the 8 minute sports update.  We had no ESPN, I had no idea that those two  new teams were coming.   

I remember in the early 60s listening to Ernie announcing from LA late at night on my transistor radio and how he loved pronouncing the the name of the Angels pitcher Bo Belinsky and I marveled at the fact there was another team out there other than the Giants and Dodgers. At the time I wasn’t aware there was an American League team out there.

[IdahoBert]

I honestly don’t want to see DD win another World Series that he couldn’t deliver with our club. That 2018 Red Sox team that had our players on it won the whole thing. It’s galling. I’m definitely pulling for the Dodgers to beat the Phillies. 

[oblong]

If the Phillies don't win it all do they get tagged with a label?  This is their 4th straight postseason run and they've regressed every year even as their regular season win total went up.

 

[Biff Mayhem]

11 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I didn’t feel all that bad for the fans. I don’t dislike them personally, but I didn’t feel all that bad for the fans. I found their joy annoying, which may not reflect well upon me.

In the 90s, Cleveland fans would flock to Tiger Stadium in droves. They were loud, obnoxious and entitled. I have despised their fanbase since. I laughed like a hyena during game 7 of the 1997 World Series. 
 

I don’t think I have the same animosity toward them now, but I felt the same amount of satisfaction with the Tigers winning the series in Cleveland as I do when Michigan football loses. It’s one of the best feelings in sports. 

[Tiger337]

59 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I still remember as a kid getting my first pack of 1977 baseball cards and seeing Toronto Blue Jays?    Seattle Mariners?  What the heck?  Who are these teams?     Al Ackerman didn't exactly cover the baseball expansion on the 8 minute sports update.  We had no ESPN, I had no idea that those two  new teams were coming.   

I knew about it because the Tigers lost five players in the expansion draft: 

Dan Meyer

Frank MacCormack

Dennis Debarr

Dave Lemancyck

Bill Laxton

I thought Meyer was going to be good, but he never developed.  The only one that amounted to anything at all was Dave Lemancyck who have a couple of decent years and a bunch of bad ones.  

I remember reading in TSN that MacCormack had some kind of beef with Mark Fidrych.  As soon as I saw that, I knew he was a loser.  

The first player picked in that draft was Ruppert Jones (from the Royals).  He, of course, later became a member of the 1984 Tigers.  

[IdahoBert]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I still remember as a kid getting my first pack of 1977 baseball cards and seeing Toronto Blue Jays?    Seattle Mariners?  What the heck?  Who are these teams?     Al Ackerman didn't exactly cover the baseball expansion on the 8 minute sports update.  We had no ESPN, I had no idea that those two  new teams were coming.   

This made me think of the Seattle Pilots and their ill-fated 1969 season that led to them moving to Milwaukee in 1970 and becoming the Brewers.

Although I want the Tigers to win, there would be a delicious irony in Milwaukee and Seattle facing each other in the World Series.

This is not the dream scenario for the oligarchs. They would just as soon have the Yankees face the Dodgers or maybe the Cubs every year and that would be the World Series no matter what. 

[Motor City Sonics]

4 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I knew about it because the Tigers lost five players in the expansion draft: 

Dan Meyer

Frank MacCormack

Dennis Debarr

Dave Lemancyck

Bill Laxton

I thought Meyer was going to be good, but he never developed.  The only one that amounted to anything at all was Dave Lemancyck who have a couple of decent years and a bunch of bad ones.  

I remember reading in TSN that MacCormack had some kind of beef with Mark Fidrych.  As soon as I saw that, I knew he was a loser.  

The first player picked in that draft was Ruppert Jones (from the Royals).  He, of course, later became a member of the 1984 Tigers.  

Danny Meyer (who always rolled his neck when he batted) was not a gifted defender.  One of the worst outfielders in baseball.  A lot like Nick Castellanos without the consistent power.   Didn't the Tigers lose Leon Roberts in that draft too? 

[Motor City Sonics]

Sorry, Leon Roberts ended up on the Mariners but a couple years after the Tigers traded him to Houston

Houston got

Danny Meyer, Terry Humphre, Mark Lemongello and Gene Pentz    for Dave Roberts, Milt May and Jim Crawford. 

Sounds like a Scott Harris deadline trade to me

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Sorry, Leon Roberts ended up on the Mariners but a couple years after the Tigers traded him to Houston

Houston got

Danny Meyer, Terry Humphre, Mark Lemongello and Gene Pentz    for Dave Roberts, Milt May and Jim Crawford. 

Sounds like a Scott Harris deadline trade to me

Sounds more like a Randy Smith trade - trade with Houston where lots of mediocre players are exchanged.  

[Motor City Sonics]

4 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

This made me think of the Seattle Pilots and their ill-fated 1969 season that led to them moving to Milwaukee in 1970 and becoming the Brewers.

Although I want the Tigers to win, there would be a delicious irony in Milwaukee and Seattle facing each other in the World Series.

This is not the dream scenario for the oligarchs. They would just as soon have the Yankees face the Dodgers or maybe the Cubs every year and that would be the World Series no matter what. 

That whole story was so crazy.   Seattle was supposed to get a team in 1973 - but because the A's moved from Kansas City to Oakland,  a Missouri Senator named Stuart Symington (who almost became Kennedy's VP) threw a tantrum and started threatening baseball unless they put an expansion team in KC as soon as possible, so the 2 team expansion of 1969 with the Padres and Expos became a four team expansion adding the Royals and one more team - that was going to be in either Denver or Seattle.    Neither city was ready for a team, but Seattle had almost lured the Cleveland Indians, so they got the nod.    They were still pounding seats into Sick's Stadium on Opening Day, and literally stopped for the national anthem.  Mickey Mantle, who championed having a team in Seattle once said it was the perfect name for the park.     It was a total disaster.   No water pressure after the 6th innings.  Teams had to shower back at the hotel after the games.      They ran out of money and their trucks were driving from Spring Training in Arizona to Seattle just days before the 1970 season started and parked in Utah waiting to find out if they were going to Seattle, Denver or Milwaukee.   This is TWO DAYS before the season started when an auto dealer named Bud Selig bought the team.   He wanted the colors to be Maroon and Navy blue like the minor league Brewers team, but it was so last-minute that they were wearing pilots uniforms with patches on them for Milwaukee at the start of the season.   They just kept the blue and gold after that.    Nuts, man, nuts. 

Edited October 3 by Motor City Sonics