Tiger337 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 It's hard to imagine Jones not staying on the roster, especially given their need for right-handed batters. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: I do too. I see more of a spot for him than Malloy. Yeah - Malloy has great zone discipline, but I haven't seen enough evidence Malloy can hit the ball when it's in the zone - at least so far. The former by itself isn't enough to stay in the majors. Edited October 15 by gehringer_2 Quote
4hzglory Posted October 15 Posted October 15 7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Yeah - Malloy has great zone discipline, but I haven't seen enough evidence Malloy can hit the ball when it's in the zone - at least so far. The former by itself isn't enough to stay in the majors. I agree. I'd put Jones in the "Lock" column and Malloy in the "Bubble" one - I originally was going over how they are listed on the spreadsheet. Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 I think Ibanez won't be back. He is going to be 33, is coming off a bad year (didn't even hit LHP) and is eligible for arbitration. 1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted October 15 Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I think Ibanez won't be back. He is going to be 33, is coming off a bad year (didn't even hit LHP) and is eligible for arbitration. He can play defense though. Malloy and Jones cannot. Malloy still has options and can be stashed at Toledo. Quote
4hzglory Posted October 15 Posted October 15 9 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: He can play defense though. Malloy and Jones cannot. Malloy still has options and can be stashed at Toledo. I tend to agree with Tiger337. I do think they value Ibanez more than Malloy on the major league club and will try and trade Malloy, but if they don't I could see Ibanez dfa'd, especially with being eligible for arbitration. Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 16 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: He can play defense though. Malloy and Jones cannot. Malloy still has options and can be stashed at Toledo. I agree Malloy will probably start the season in the minors. I am thinking about the 40-man roster. It is at 47 now and there will be maybe 3 rule 5 additions. I think there will be 5 players leaving via free agency. So, they will need to drop at least 5 more. Quote
Edman85 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 23 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I agree Malloy will probably start the season in the minors. I am thinking about the 40-man roster. It is at 47 now and there will be maybe 3 rule 5 additions. I think there will be 5 players leaving via free agency. So, they will need to drop at least 5 more. 47 now, Minimum 6 (Kahnle, Torres, Paddack, Montero, Finnegan, Cobb), maximum 9 (Flaherty, Sewald, Urquidy have options) leaving via free agency. Tanner Rainey seems like an auto-cut. This was my back-of-the-napkin 40 man math: 22 5 11 3 6 1 8 Lock Likely Stay Bubble Likely DFA/NT Free Agent Must Add Maybe Add Javier Baez Beau Brieske Jason Foley Sean Guenther Alex Cobb Hao Yu Lee Garrett Burhenn Kerry Carpenter Jack Flaherty Brenan Hanifee Tanner Rainey Kyle Finnegan Trei Cruz Dillon Dingler Jake Rogers Bailey Horn Paul Sewald Tommy Kahnle Thayron Liranzo Sawyer Gipson-Long Dylan Smith Andy Ibanez Rafael Montero Jake Miller Riley Greene Matt Vierling Jahmai Jones Chris Paddack Izaac Pacheco Tyler Holton Alex Lange Gleyber Torres RJ Petit Brant Hurter Chase Lee Gabriel Reyes Jackson Jobe Ty Madden Eduardo Valencia Jace Jung Tyler Mattison Colt Keith Drew Sommers Justyn-Henry Malloy Jose Urquidy Zach McKinstry Parker Meadows Troy Melton Casey Mize Keider Montero Reese Olson Wenceel Perez Tarik Skubal Trey Sweeney Spencer Torkelson Will Vest Quote
Tigermojo Posted October 15 Posted October 15 24 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I agree Malloy will probably start the season in the minors. I am thinking about the 40-man roster. It is at 47 now and there will be maybe 3 rule 5 additions. I think there will be 5 players leaving via free agency. So, they will need to drop at least 5 more. A healthy Vierling probably makes A.I. obsolete. I agree Jones deserves a spot. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Edman85 said: 47 now, Minimum 6 (Kahnle, Torres, Paddack, Montero, Finnegan, Cobb), maximum 9 (Flaherty, Sewald, Urquidy have options) leaving via free agency. Tanner Rainey seems like an auto-cut. This was my back-of-the-napkin 40 man math: 22 5 11 3 6 1 8 Lock Likely Stay Bubble Likely DFA/NT Free Agent Must Add Maybe Add Javier Baez Beau Brieske Jason Foley Sean Guenther Alex Cobb Hao Yu Lee Garrett Burhenn Kerry Carpenter Jack Flaherty Brenan Hanifee Tanner Rainey Kyle Finnegan Trei Cruz Dillon Dingler Jake Rogers Bailey Horn Paul Sewald Tommy Kahnle Thayron Liranzo Sawyer Gipson-Long Dylan Smith Andy Ibanez Rafael Montero Jake Miller Riley Greene Matt Vierling Jahmai Jones Chris Paddack Izaac Pacheco Tyler Holton Alex Lange Gleyber Torres RJ Petit Brant Hurter Chase Lee Gabriel Reyes Jackson Jobe Ty Madden Eduardo Valencia Jace Jung Tyler Mattison Colt Keith Drew Sommers Justyn-Henry Malloy Jose Urquidy Zach McKinstry Parker Meadows Troy Melton Casey Mize Keider Montero Reese Olson Wenceel Perez Tarik Skubal Trey Sweeney Spencer Torkelson Will Vest The only one I'd maybe differ is Foley. I would think given the need and the pre-injury track record, if Foley is going to be reasonably healthy he'd be a lock. Edited October 15 by gehringer_2 Quote
HeyAbbott Posted October 15 Posted October 15 On 10/13/2025 at 10:28 PM, chasfh said: I'm sorry, am I reading this right? Are you actually suggesting that Chris Ilitch will choose not to spend on the team because he's going to spend the money on some broad instead? That sounds absolutely bonkers to me. Stranger things have been known to happen and priorities change when a man's woman changes. Color me callous, I am still not convinced about the strength of the Illitch empire. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, HeyAbbott said: Stranger things have been known to happen and priorities change when a man's woman changes. Color me callous, I am still not convinced about the strength of the Illitch empire. yeah - it can't be discounted. If he buys something more than 150 ft at the waterline for her the Tigers could be in trouble. Quote
HeyAbbott Posted October 15 Posted October 15 On other notes, Seattle is on the verge of a WS appearance at this writing with a payroll 7 million less than Detroit if baseball reference figures can believed. Harris wasted a lot of money last year trying to be the smartest man I the room. I would much prefer one quality addition this year than mountains of assorted crap. For openers, find a way to get a strong enough infield roster so that we can say goodbye to Trey Sweeney and Ibanez. This team is at the point that small marginal changes can make a difference. From my way of thinking this year, If Bregman opts out of Boston adding him would be a small marginal change. Quote
IdahoBert Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Scott Harris is just doing it his way, like Frank Sinatra. Quote
papalawrence Posted October 15 Posted October 15 10 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: Scott Harris is just doing it his way, like Frank Sinatra. With Starting pitcher acquisitions he more resembled Stevie Wonder Quote
IdahoBert Posted October 15 Posted October 15 What about Wenceel Pérez? Before the trade deadline I apparently ill advisedly suggested trading him for pitching while his stock was high. Given at least his last 30 games of the regular season and in the postseason, how do people feel about him now? Quote
Edman85 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: The only one I'd maybe differ is Foley. I would think given the need and the pre-injury track record, if Foley is going to be reasonably healthy he'd be a lock. He's coming off a shoulder injury and could get expensive in arbitration. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: He's coming off a shoulder injury and could get expensive in arbitration. True of course - but he was pretty decent over a couple of years. You can't expect quality for nothing. Arb can be expensive but is it really any worse than what you would pay in FA for equivalent production? Assuming the Tigers believe he can produce again. Quote
romad1 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, Tigermojo said: A healthy Vierling probably makes A.I. obsolete. I agree Jones deserves a spot. I read this in isolation. Are you saying a healthy Vierling brings the age of Quantum General Intelligence? What dimension is this? Quote
Tigermojo Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, romad1 said: I read this in isolation. Are you saying a healthy Vierling brings the age of Quantum General Intelligence? What dimension is this? Dude is just good at everything. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, IdahoBert said: What about Wenceel Pérez? Before the trade deadline I apparently ill advisedly suggested trading him for pitching while his stock was high. Given at least his last 30 games of the regular season and in the postseason, how do people feel about him now? This was season for Wenceel to improve on his 1st season and cement his future. Instead he treaded water - ended up with almost zero net improvement. Pretty much mush rather than cement. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: The only one I'd maybe differ is Foley. I would think given the need and the pre-injury track record, if Foley is going to be reasonably healthy he'd be a lock. Conversely... Some pitching decisions may need to be made and if the issue is one more year before free agency but currently injured.... Then why are we holding a 40-man spot for him? We may need to jettison some guys from the 40 if they are not providing actual current value. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 15 Posted October 15 12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: True of course - but he was pretty decent over a couple of years. You can't expect quality for nothing. Arb can be expensive but is it really any worse than what you would pay in FA for equivalent production? Assuming the Tigers believe he can produce again. Alternatively to a free agent... or an injured 40-man spot... Might as well start throwing these spots to kids in the minors. Out with the old, in with the new, per se. Even if it's a minor leaguer with his own set of injuries (Jake Miller, RJ Petit?) Just my 2 cents. Quote
romad1 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Tigermojo said: Dude is just good at everything. I mean, if he's literally Doctor Who. Quote
papalawrence Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, romad1 said: I read this in isolation. Are you saying a healthy Vierling brings the age of Quantum General Intelligence? What dimension is this? 6 Quote
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