2025-2026 Tigers Off Season Thread

[Sports_Freak]

Wrong thread

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[Tiger337]

20 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I dont think midget is politically correct. Go with the Rod Allen description of Jose Altuve...."Itty Bitty Fella"

How about vertically challenged? 

Edited 14 hours ago by Tiger337

[Motor City Sonics]

4 hours ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

And Casey not in any Tigers gear. Trade confirmed.

Well, lets be fair, I think he woke up about 30 seconds before the picture. 

 

So, the guy that led our team in wins last year, a #1 overall draft pick, who was an All Star last year with an ERA under 4 -- is our FIFTH starter.     

Wow. 

[IdahoBert]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

How about vertically challenged? 

Differently dimensioned. 

[tiger2022]

Let's be honest with ourselves.  People on here think Verlander is going to be the ace of years ago.  He's more likely going to be Charlie Morton from last year.  Dude is 43 years old, will spend half the season on the IL and half his starts are going to be really ugly. 

It isn't an amazing signing other than nostalgia.  

I'd prefer they spend on a 3rd baseman or corner outfielder/DH.

[casimir]

2 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

I’m very excited for Verlander to be back, but if we’re being honest, Reese is probably a better pitcher at this point in their careers.

Maybe.  Availability is an ability.  Olson struggles with that.

[casimir]

8 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Let's be honest with ourselves.  People on here think Verlander is going to be the ace of years ago.  He's more likely going to be Charlie Morton from last year.  Dude is 43 years old, will spend half the season on the IL and half his starts are going to be really ugly. 

It isn't an amazing signing other than nostalgia.  

I'd prefer they spend on a 3rd baseman or corner outfielder/DH.

He’s probably going to be in between Cy Young and Charlie Morton.  Any commentary about him is going to be shoved to one side or the other.  His game starts might need to be moved to the political section.

[Sports_Freak]

57 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Let's be honest with ourselves.  People on here think Verlander is going to be the ace of years ago.  He's more likely going to be Charlie Morton from last year.  Dude is 43 years old, will spend half the season on the IL and half his starts are going to be really ugly. 

It isn't an amazing signing other than nostalgia.  

I'd prefer they spend on a 3rd baseman or corner outfielder/DH.

He's said he wants to pitch until he's 45 years old. Getting him to 300 wins will be a challenge. But he can throw strikes and usually veterans get all the calls. It will be pretty sad if the Tigers have to DFA him.

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Well, lets be fair, I think he woke up about 30 seconds before the picture. 

 

So, the guy that led our team in wins last year, a #1 overall draft pick, who was an All Star last year with an ERA under 4 -- is our FIFTH starter.     

Wow. 

No he isn't. He's our #3 starter. Behind Skubal and Valdez. Ahead of Flaherty and JV.

[holygoat]

3 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

Let's be honest with ourselves.  People on here think Verlander is going to be the ace of years ago. 

Nobody here -- and I mean precisely zero people here -- think Verlander is gonna be the ace he was back in the day. Not a single person thinks that. Everyone -- and I mean everyone -- expects him to be a serviceable 4th/5th guy in the rotation and great influence in the locker room a la Kenny Rogers.

[lordstanley]

Growing up and until recently in Canada hockey league divisions went up from novice-atom-pee wee - bantam - midget. Some of those names - especially midget - were considered derogatory so a few years ago switched to age classifiers like U9, U18.  One small step for regular-sized man, one giant leap for short-limbed people.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/youth-hockey-name-categories-1.4924229

Midget a derogatory slur?

Athletics Canada recently said it would pursue dropping the term "midget" as an age category descriptor, a move that came a few days after the Ontario Basketball Association stated its plans to do the same. The term has been used for decades in a variety of sports but many consider it to be a derogatory slur.

Allan Redford, the director of the Dwarf Athletic Association of Canada, applauded the recent developments and hopes others may follow suit.

"I'm actually wonderfully encouraged that they're taking this approach and that it's getting this much traction," Redford said Wednesday. "I'm very, very pleased."

Edited 9 hours ago by lordstanley

[Sports_Freak]

3 hours ago, holygoat said:

Nobody here -- and I mean precisely zero people here -- think Verlander is gonna be the ace he was back in the day. Not a single person thinks that. Everyone -- and I mean everyone -- expects him to be a serviceable 4th/5th guy in the rotation and great influence in the locker room a la Kenny Rogers.

The main difference i see between Rogers and JV is Rogers helped influence a very young pitching staff. With the exception of Melton, who is the young guys JV can help? Do Not give advice to Takik Skubal, he's a finished product.

[Tiger337]

6 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

No he isn't. He's our #3 starter. Behind Skubal and Valdez. Ahead of Flaherty and JV.

Skubal is #1 and Valdez is #2.  I wouldn't really assign a number to anyone else.  There is is nothing in Mizes track record which sets him apart from Flaherty.  

[Sports_Freak]

45 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Skubal is #1 and Valdez is #2.  I wouldn't really assign a number to anyone else.  There is is nothing in Mizes track record which sets him apart from Flaherty.  

Last season was his first season back after fullly recovering from surgery. He was an All Star pitcher. That's his track record. Flaherty is way too inconsistent. He just seems to be going along and has an inning where he imploded. And JV has had a hall of fame career but is in his twilight. Mize is going to have a monster season. Book it...

[Cruzer1]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Skubal is #1 and Valdez is #2.  I wouldn't really assign a number to anyone else.  There is is nothing in Mizes track record which sets him apart from Flaherty.  

I think Hinch might assign Skubal, then Flaherty, then Valdez just to keep the two lefties apart in the rotation.

[oblong]

Explain to me how Reese is a better option than JV when he's out for 2026?  Verlander signed a 1 year deal.

 

[oblong]

John Mulaney tells a joke about the time he was writing something and used Midget.  He was told my someone that "You know, Midget is as bad as the N word".  Mulaney said "Um... no... when you are comparing two words and you can't even say one of the words... they're not equally bad". 

That's just a joke.  I applaud the move by Canada.  It's just decency.  If people say a word is cruel in their mind then oblige.  It's an easy thing to do and costs nothing.  Why do people worry about being able to use words?  Just pick another.  On the flip side during the 'transition' don't flip out if it's inadvertently used.  If someone's being a jerk about it, then yeah, have at it.  But if they didn't get the memo yet, give them a chance to apologize and move on.

 

[tiger2022]

6 hours ago, holygoat said:

Nobody here -- and I mean precisely zero people here -- think Verlander is gonna be the ace he was back in the day. Not a single person thinks that. Everyone -- and I mean everyone -- expects him to be a serviceable 4th/5th guy in the rotation and great influence in the locker room a la Kenny Rogers

Obviously, you haven't read some of the posts on here.  

[tiger2022]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Skubal is #1 and Valdez is #2.  I wouldn't really assign a number to anyone else.  There is is nothing in Mizes track record which sets him apart from Flaherty.  

I think Valdez is going to have a rough season with the Tigers infield defense and lack of range, especially if Baez isn't at shortstop...not Zimmerman bad, but it'll show.

Edited 3 hours ago by tiger2022

[Sports_Freak]

Olson is out for the year with shoulder surgery. Wow, he was hurt last season and tried to rehab it without surgery. Didn't work...

[Biff Mayhem]

20 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Obviously, you haven't read some of the posts on here.  

This forum has a multi-quote feature. Please take a couple of minutes and quote those people who think Verlander will be the “must see JV” of the past. 

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, Biff Mayhem said:

This forum has a multi-quote feature. Please take a couple of minutes and quote those people who think Verlander will be the “must see JV” of the past. 

He definitely is going to be a huge fan favorite. Sellout crowds in early season starts. If he has some success, it may continue into the summer. But what can we expect? 5 to 7 innings per start of a 4 ERA? A 125 to 150 inning season? I hope nobody expects vintage JV, they will be disappointed. But, we may see flashes of his old self. Limited flashes...

[oblong]

I don't think the games he pitches will be sellouts.  Especially midweek games in April and May.  Maybe in the summer but that could be due to the team overall.

 

 

[tiger2022]

12 minutes ago, Biff Mayhem said:

This forum has a multi-quote feature. Please take a couple of minutes and quote those people who think Verlander will be the “must see JV” of the past. 

...or you can go back and read about how it was an amazing signing yourself.  I have better things to do than go back and find all the posts and quote them to satisfy you.  Quite frankly, I don't care.

[Biff Mayhem]

16 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

...or you can go back and read about how it was an amazing signing yourself.  I have better things to do than go back and find all the posts and quote them to satisfy you.  Quite frankly, I don't care.

So you’ve got nothing and pride is preventing you from admitting that you stated a falsehood as truth. 
 

The person asserting that something was said has the onus to prove their assertion and saying “go back and read” is lazy. If you are really correct, you’ll show your proof.