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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

I do too.  I see more of a spot for him than Malloy.  

Yeah - Malloy has great zone discipline, but I haven't seen enough evidence Malloy can hit the ball when it's in the zone - at least so far. The former by itself isn't enough to stay in the majors.

Edited by gehringer_2
Posted
7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Yeah - Malloy has great zone discipline, but I haven't seen enough evidence Malloy can hit the ball when it's in the zone - at least so far. The former by itself isn't enough to stay in the majors.

I agree.  I'd put Jones in the "Lock" column and Malloy in the "Bubble" one - I originally was going over how they are listed on the spreadsheet.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I think Ibanez won't be back.  He is going to be 33, is coming off a bad year (didn't even hit LHP) and is eligible for arbitration.  

He can play defense though. Malloy and Jones cannot. Malloy still has options and can be stashed at Toledo.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

He can play defense though. Malloy and Jones cannot. Malloy still has options and can be stashed at Toledo.

I tend to agree with Tiger337.  I do think they value Ibanez more than Malloy on the major league club and will try and trade Malloy, but if they don't I could see Ibanez dfa'd, especially with being eligible for arbitration.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

He can play defense though. Malloy and Jones cannot. Malloy still has options and can be stashed at Toledo.

I agree Malloy will probably start the season in the minors.  I am thinking about the 40-man roster.  It is at 47 now and there will be maybe 3 rule 5 additions.  I think there will be 5 players leaving via free agency.  So, they will need to drop at least 5 more.   

Posted
23 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I agree Malloy will probably start the season in the minors.  I am thinking about the 40-man roster.  It is at 47 now and there will be maybe 3 rule 5 additions.  I think there will be 5 players leaving via free agency.  So, they will need to drop at least 5 more.   

47 now, Minimum 6 (Kahnle, Torres, Paddack, Montero, Finnegan, Cobb), maximum 9 (Flaherty, Sewald, Urquidy have options) leaving via free agency. Tanner Rainey seems like an auto-cut.

 

This was my back-of-the-napkin 40 man math:

22 5 11 3 6 1 8
Lock Likely Stay Bubble Likely DFA/NT Free Agent Must Add Maybe Add
Javier Baez Beau Brieske Jason Foley Sean Guenther Alex Cobb Hao Yu Lee Garrett Burhenn
Kerry Carpenter Jack Flaherty Brenan Hanifee Tanner Rainey Kyle Finnegan   Trei Cruz
Dillon Dingler Jake Rogers Bailey Horn Paul Sewald Tommy Kahnle   Thayron Liranzo
Sawyer Gipson-Long Dylan Smith Andy Ibanez   Rafael Montero   Jake Miller
Riley Greene Matt Vierling Jahmai Jones   Chris Paddack   Izaac Pacheco
Tyler Holton   Alex Lange   Gleyber Torres   RJ Petit
Brant Hurter   Chase Lee       Gabriel Reyes
Jackson Jobe   Ty Madden       Eduardo Valencia
Jace Jung   Tyler Mattison        
Colt Keith   Drew Sommers        
Justyn-Henry Malloy   Jose Urquidy        
Zach McKinstry            
Parker Meadows            
Troy Melton            
Casey Mize            
Keider Montero            
Reese Olson            
Wenceel Perez            
Tarik Skubal            
Trey Sweeney            
Spencer Torkelson            
Will Vest            
Posted
24 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I agree Malloy will probably start the season in the minors.  I am thinking about the 40-man roster.  It is at 47 now and there will be maybe 3 rule 5 additions.  I think there will be 5 players leaving via free agency.  So, they will need to drop at least 5 more.   

A healthy Vierling probably makes A.I. obsolete. I agree Jones deserves a spot.

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

47 now, Minimum 6 (Kahnle, Torres, Paddack, Montero, Finnegan, Cobb), maximum 9 (Flaherty, Sewald, Urquidy have options) leaving via free agency. Tanner Rainey seems like an auto-cut.

 

This was my back-of-the-napkin 40 man math:

 

22 5 11 3 6 1 8
Lock Likely Stay Bubble Likely DFA/NT Free Agent Must Add Maybe Add
Javier Baez Beau Brieske Jason Foley Sean Guenther Alex Cobb Hao Yu Lee Garrett Burhenn
Kerry Carpenter Jack Flaherty Brenan Hanifee Tanner Rainey Kyle Finnegan   Trei Cruz
Dillon Dingler Jake Rogers Bailey Horn Paul Sewald Tommy Kahnle   Thayron Liranzo
Sawyer Gipson-Long Dylan Smith Andy Ibanez   Rafael Montero   Jake Miller
Riley Greene Matt Vierling Jahmai Jones   Chris Paddack   Izaac Pacheco
Tyler Holton   Alex Lange   Gleyber Torres   RJ Petit
Brant Hurter   Chase Lee       Gabriel Reyes
Jackson Jobe   Ty Madden       Eduardo Valencia
Jace Jung   Tyler Mattison        
Colt Keith   Drew Sommers        
Justyn-Henry Malloy   Jose Urquidy        
Zach McKinstry            
Parker Meadows            
Troy Melton            
Casey Mize            
Keider Montero            
Reese Olson            
Wenceel Perez            
Tarik Skubal            
Trey Sweeney            
Spencer Torkelson            
Will Vest            

The only one I'd maybe differ is Foley. I would think given the need and the pre-injury track record, if Foley is going to be reasonably healthy he'd be a lock. 

Edited by gehringer_2
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On 10/13/2025 at 10:28 PM, chasfh said:

I'm sorry, am I reading this right? Are you actually suggesting that Chris Ilitch will choose not to spend on the team because he's going to spend the money on some broad instead? That sounds absolutely bonkers to me.

Stranger things have been known to happen and priorities change when a man's woman changes.

Color me callous, I am still not convinced about the strength of the Illitch empire. 

Posted
1 minute ago, HeyAbbott said:

Stranger things have been known to happen and priorities change when a man's woman changes.

Color me callous, I am still not convinced about the strength of the Illitch empire. 

yeah  - it can't be discounted. If he buys something more than 150 ft at the waterline for her the Tigers could be in trouble. :classic_laugh:

Posted

On other notes, Seattle is on the verge of a WS appearance at this writing with a payroll 7 million less than Detroit if baseball reference figures can believed.

Harris wasted a lot of money last year trying to be the smartest man I the room. I would much prefer one quality addition this year than mountains of assorted crap.

For openers, find a way to get a strong enough infield roster so that we can say goodbye to Trey Sweeney and Ibanez. This team is at the point that small marginal changes can make a difference.

From my way of thinking this year, If Bregman opts out of Boston adding him would be a small marginal change.

Posted

What about Wenceel Pérez? Before the trade deadline I apparently ill advisedly suggested trading him for pitching while his stock was high. Given at least his last 30 games of the regular season and in the postseason, how do people feel about him now?

Posted
1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

The only one I'd maybe differ is Foley. I would think given the need and the pre-injury track record, if Foley is going to be reasonably healthy he'd be a lock. 

He's coming off a shoulder injury and could get expensive in arbitration.

Posted
1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

He's coming off a shoulder injury and could get expensive in arbitration.

True of course - but he was pretty decent over a couple of years.  You can't expect quality for nothing. Arb can be expensive but is it really any worse than what you would pay in FA for equivalent production? Assuming the Tigers believe he can produce again.

Posted
2 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

A healthy Vierling probably makes A.I. obsolete. I agree Jones deserves a spot.

I read this in isolation.  Are you saying a healthy Vierling brings the age of Quantum General Intelligence?  What dimension is this?  

Posted
1 minute ago, romad1 said:

I read this in isolation.  Are you saying a healthy Vierling brings the age of Quantum General Intelligence?  What dimension is this?  

Dude is just good at everything.

Posted
1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

What about Wenceel Pérez? Before the trade deadline I apparently ill advisedly suggested trading him for pitching while his stock was high. Given at least his last 30 games of the regular season and in the postseason, how do people feel about him now?

This was season for Wenceel to improve on his 1st season and cement his future. Instead he treaded water - ended up with almost zero net improvement. Pretty much mush rather than cement.

Posted
2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

The only one I'd maybe differ is Foley. I would think given the need and the pre-injury track record, if Foley is going to be reasonably healthy he'd be a lock. 

Conversely...

Some pitching decisions may need to be made and if the issue is one more year before free agency but currently injured....

Then why are we holding a 40-man spot for him?

We may need to jettison some guys from the 40 if they are not providing actual current value.

Posted
12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

True of course - but he was pretty decent over a couple of years.  You can't expect quality for nothing. Arb can be expensive but is it really any worse than what you would pay in FA for equivalent production? Assuming the Tigers believe he can produce again.

Alternatively to a free agent... or an injured 40-man spot...

Might as well start throwing these spots to kids in the minors.

Out with the old, in with the new, per se.

Even if it's a minor leaguer with his own set of injuries (Jake Miller, RJ Petit?)

Just my 2 cents.

 

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