Shinzaki Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Frazier played some OT in college...he could conceivably be depth at at least two spots on the OL Quote
Cruzer1 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Stanley70 said: Can't see them keeping all three of Mahogany, Frazier, and Scruggs. He might have the edge since he can backup at center. They'll have plenty of room for those three. Glasgow and Sorsdal might be on the way out. Quote
KL2 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 15 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: It does happen though: 09-2025 Tank Bigsby traded to Eagles for 5th and 6th. 03-2025 Jordan Mason traded (+ 6th round pick #187) to Vikings for 5th (#160) and 2026 6th. 04-2023 DeAndre Swift traded (along with 7th #249) for 7th (219) and 2025 4th 11-2024 Khalil Herbert traded to Bengals for 7th 11-2022 Nyheim Miller-Hines traded to Bills for Zack Moss and 2023 5th 11-2022 Jeff Wilson traded to Dolphins for 2023 5th 04-2020 Matt Breida traded to 49'ers for 5th round pick. Jesus way more than I thought. An older expensive running back. Good call 84 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Frazier played some OT in college...he could conceivably be depth at at least two spots on the OL Frazier is depth at all three interior spots. They will need to find a tackle either through the draft or free agency. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: It’s only $4 million in cap savings so let’s settle down a bit. If you don’t extend Laporta or Branch this year, you risk losing them. They will probably do with Laporta what they did with Hutchinson and extend him mid season. It’s not way too early to extend Gibbs. He only has one more year plus the 5th year option. The 5th year option will be expensive. Signing Gibbs now can lower his cap hit in the short term. We need all the cap space we can get, so $4 million, while not a lot, is not insignificant. Gibbs has two more years because you can franchise him as well for a 6th year. Not all RBs are worth giving a second contract to. Sometimes, unfortunately, you churn them and burn them. That's why I would rather hold off on paying Gibbs now, because we still have the franchise tag in our back pocket. Quote
Nate7474 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I think they will still go out and try and find a vet starter at C or OG and use Rathledge at whatever spot they don’t sign. This is a good pickup to backup across the interior as our cheaper Glasgow replacement. We started with 9/10 Olineman last year so using that I see. OT- Sewell, Decker, Manu, Draft pick and Swing TE OG/OC- Rathledge, Mahogany, Frazier, Scruggs and a free agent vet. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: We need all the cap space we can get, so $4 million, while not a lot, is not insignificant. Gibbs has two more years because you can franchise him as well for a 6th year. Not all RBs are worth giving a second contract to. Sometimes, unfortunately, you churn them and burn them. That's why I would rather hold off on paying Gibbs now, because we still have the franchise tag in our back pocket. Yes we will need all the cap space to keep the good players on the team. We will also need it if you want to franchise tag Gibbs. Quote
Hongbit Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Why not? Mahogany is your starting LG and either Frazier or Scruggs at C. Hard to get a gauge on Mahogany. He looked good in 24 and not very good in 25. He dealt with injuries both years too. Not sure what he is at the moment. It’s good they give themselves options. 1 Quote
Longgone Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Stanley70 said: Can't see them keeping all three of Mahogany, Frazier, and Scruggs. He might have the edge since he can backup at center. Any of the three could be backups, any could develop into solid starters, any could end up being cut. 1 Quote
Nate7474 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: We need all the cap space we can get, so $4 million, while not a lot, is not insignificant. Gibbs has two more years because you can franchise him as well for a 6th year. Not all RBs are worth giving a second contract to. Sometimes, unfortunately, you churn them and burn them. That's why I would rather hold off on paying Gibbs now, because we still have the franchise tag in our back pocket. I think they will try to avoid it using it for Gibbs but will if they have to. Campbell is the one they absolutely can’t use it for as LBs get lumped in with defensive lineman. RB=14.2Mil and LB=26.9mil for this year. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Nate7474 said: I think they will try to avoid it using it for Gibbs but will if they have to. Campbell is the one they absolutely can’t use it for as LBs get lumped in with defensive lineman. RB=14.2Mil and LB=26.9mil for this year. That’s why you sign Campbell to an extension. Same with Gibbs. Those 5 th year options aren’t cheap. You can create more immediate space signing them now than waiting. Gibbs contract is going to set the market. Do it before the Falcons set the market with Robinson. 2 1 Quote
Nate7474 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: That’s why you sign Campbell to an extension. Same with Gibbs. Those 5 th year options aren’t cheap. You can create more immediate space signing them now than waiting. Gibbs contract is going to set the market. Do it before the Falcons set the market with Robinson. I agree with you and I think the Lions do too. Laporta and Branch are ones that can go both ways to me on if we let them go/trade or resign them. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Great trade. Scruggs feels like exactly the kind of depth you want to have on the interior. He's a young Glasgow, in that he can play all three positions, so if anybody goes down in the interior, he's plug and play. The Lions now own two 4ths, which may be enough to move up into the late 3rd if they so choose. Of course, it does create a hole at RB2, but in all I think this is a Holmes masterclass. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Yes we will need all the cap space to keep the good players on the team. We will also need it if you want to franchise tag Gibbs. They won't have to franchise Gibbs. they can just sign him to his fifth year, but they won't have to go year to year with him. Quote
Jason_R Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Sad to see Montgomery go. He was a cornerstone of the turnaround. But they got way more than I could have imagined. At this point, OL no longer has any gaping holes. It could be improved, but they do not enter the draft being backed into the corner to fix it. 1 Quote
RedRamage Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago They got a decent return on him given what I would have expected, but right now I'm not sure I like what they got better than if we still have DMo. If Juice is good enough to be a respectable starter, then I guess it's worth it, but I don't see the Texans giving up on him if thought he could be respectable. Quote
1984Echoes Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 41 minutes ago, KL2 said: Jesus way more than I thought. An older expensive running back. Good call 84 Blind squirrel... But I'll TAKE IT!!! 😁 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: So he looks like an above-average replacement for Glasgow and Colon... Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago This guarantees that Gibbs gets a season-ending injury before Week 5. Quote
1984Echoes Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 57 minutes ago, Stanley70 said: Can't see them keeping all three of Mahogany, Frazier, and Scruggs. He might have the edge since he can backup at center. Mahogany and Frazier are the starting Guards... At this point. I'm guessing they're going to push hard for Ratledge to make it at Center. Scruggs and Awosika are backup C/IOL. They EASILY are keeping all 3 that you've listed. IMO. Quote
1984Echoes Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Getting a 4th and clearing out the cap space makes this a good deal if there was truly no way to keep Monty here. If Holmes uses that cap space to extend his own guys now and doesn't go into free agency to plug a hole or two I'll be disappointed. If he turns right around this offseason and extends Branch, Gibbs, and LaPorta right away, I don't know that this is the right series of moves at this point in time. Extending Gibbs at this point would be waaaaay too premature. Extending LaPorta, without knowing fully what his long-term health lookout will be is a big risk to take. I beg to differ on that... Extend Gibbs and Campbell ASAP. Branch & LaPorta can be waited on due to their injuries... And mid-season 2026... see what an extension looks like for those two. IMO. Quote
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