gehringer_2 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: Classic abuser mentality. Blame everyone else instead of the abuser. LOL - your're really reaching here not to hold incompetent pols as incompetent. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: LOL - your're really reaching here not to hold incompetent pols as incompetent. I'm not the one trying to blame Schumer because Platner is a Nazi woman abuser. That's all you and frankly puzzling. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: It's Schumer's fault Platner is a Nazi who abuses women. Blame the Jew. Platner is a symptom. A moribound party is the desease. It's exactly how Trump got control of the GOP in microcosm Edited June 11 by gehringer_2 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Just now, gehringer_2 said: Platner is a symptom. A moribound party is the desease. It's exactly how Trump got control of the GOP in microcosm Democrats are competitive in states they shouldn't be because of Schumer like Texas, Ohio, Iowa and Alaska. Trump got control of the party because of people like you who accepted the Nazi. Why are you not blaming the New England Dems like Sanders, Warren and Murphy who have all supported Platner? Trump captured the GOP because republicans capitulated like the New England Dems. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 13 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: because of people like you who accepted the Nazi. oh lord MB, get of your horse. Nobody here has done one thing to help or hurt Platner one way or the other. Unless someone here sent a campaign contribution we are completely immaterial to the situation. 3 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 11 Posted June 11 11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: oh lord MB, get of your horse. Nobody here has done one thing to help or hurt Platner one way or the other. Unless someone here sent a campaign contribution we are completely immaterial to the situation. I said like you, not you or anyone here for that matter. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I said like you, not you or anyone here for that matter. 🙏 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Why are you not blaming the New England Dems like Sanders, Warren and Murphy who have all supported Platner? Trump captured the GOP because republicans capitulated like the New England Dems. If Platner craters and loses, there will be plenty of blame to go around - no doubt. Maybe even if he wins and then it goes badly. Edited June 11 by gehringer_2 Quote
oblong Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: The problem is the control of the senate affects Michigan and control of the senate runs through Maine. I do think Dems have a path without Maine, but it's more difficult. National Dems are going to have to answer for Platner. You attack Paxton, what about Platner? Sure but I have no responsibility for that. I’ve never been there and don’t know anybody from there. The local party and politicians and voters decide this. Not us or Schumer or Bernie or Hillary or whoever else. Th voters should know better. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 11 Posted June 11 25 minutes ago, oblong said: Sure but I have no responsibility for that. I’ve never been there and don’t know anybody from there. The local party and politicians and voters decide this. Not us or Schumer or Bernie or Hillary or whoever else. Th voters should know better. There are options. We don't have to accept it. The voters chose Biden but Dems were able to find a way to remove him from the ticket. Quote
oblong Posted June 11 Posted June 11 I dont understand what “accept” means in this context. I can say I accept or don’t accept it. How does that change anything? What did I do different there? It has no effect on what the voters there will do. They’re not listening to me. Quote
pfife Posted June 12 Posted June 12 This is total erasure of the value of virtue signaling and its a traveshamockery Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 12 Posted June 12 2 hours ago, oblong said: I dont understand what “accept” means in this context. I can say I accept or don’t accept it. How does that change anything? What did I do different there? It has no effect on what the voters there will do. They’re not listening to me. We, as Democrats, do not have to accept Platner as the nominee. Dems have shown they are very skilled at overturning the results of a primary. I have already emailed Slotkin and Peters about Platner. Just waiting on George Clooney to weigh in. Dems can also support a write in campaign for Costello. There is also a path to a majority in the senate without Maine. I think even if Platner wins, Dems will need a buffer as he has never shown previously to be a progressive. Quote
oblong Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Legit question. Is this something the DNC is involved with or is it theMaine Democratic Party? Quote
pfife Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Throwing out election results and installing somoene isnt tyranny when MB supports it Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 12 Posted June 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: Dems will need a buffer as he has never shown previously to be a progressive. he may end up universally hated by his own party like Ted Cruz, but the one thing I don't get any sense of is that he's GOP mole. His current progressive postures may be a politics of convenience to get elected, but the risk of him joining the GOP seems small - he's not holding out any olive branches to Trumpers - he's savaging Trump in his campaign. And apart from that, changing parties in this environment doesn't make it easier to get re-elected like it might have in the 70's - it just makes both sides hate you. Edited June 12 by gehringer_2 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 12 Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: he may end up universally hated by his own party like Ted Cruz, but the one thing I don't get any sense of is that he's GOP mole. His current progressive postures may be a politics of convenience to get elected, but the risk of him joining the GOP seems small - he's not holding out any olive branches to Trumpers - he's savaging Trump in his campaign. And apart from that, changing parties in this environment doesn't make it easier to get re-elected like it might have in the 70's - it just makes both sides hate you. Fetterman also was a progressive populist. Platner as recently as 2020 voted for Collins. I don’t think he will switch parties but he is definitely a wild card. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 12 Posted June 12 (edited) re: Fetterman: One of the last posts on LiberalPatriot -- about Qinnipiac polling on Fetterman. https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/john-fetterman-and-the-new-era-of Then, on the death of TLP https://artofassociation.substack.com/p/the-strange-death-of-the-liberal The line in the 2nd that rang the bell to me was this one: Quote “American politics features two minority parties, and neither seems interested in building a national coalition.” For either party - eke out one house of Congress or the Presidency every other cycle, continual split government gridlock. It's why too many people in the middle aren't caring that Trump is willing to break everything. Edited June 12 by gehringer_2 Quote
romad1 Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Just started this vid as I start working on something. Lets see how this goes. Quote
romad1 Posted June 12 Posted June 12 (edited) 14 minutes ago, romad1 said: Just started this vid as I start working on something. Lets see how this goes. One interesting data point from this so far...and I should have realized this as it was under my nose. Jay Jones, the Virginia AG candidate was a dumpster fire full of loaded diapers and still won this past year. The rising tide is going to pull a lot of similar shaky (to be very generous) candidates over the line. I think Platner being younger and not Susan Collins will mean more than him being really shaky. And before you dazzle me with your knowledge of how much money Collins will spend or electioneering the GOP will pull off... They threw the kitchen sink at Jones because it was the only election they thought they could win. Edited June 12 by romad1 1 Quote
chasfh Posted June 12 Author Posted June 12 2 hours ago, romad1 said: Just started this vid as I start working on something. Lets see how this goes. I don't have an hour and five minutes to watch this. What does it say? Quote
romad1 Posted June 12 Posted June 12 1 minute ago, chasfh said: I don't have an hour and five minutes to watch this. What does it say? I just said that above. Its good besides that. Its fodder for optimism but he says besides the wave there is a sea wall.. The seawall is all the crap the GOP is trying because they know a massive wave is coming. 1 Quote
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