POLITICS SCHMALITICS

[gehringer_2]

35 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Clinton was popular when he left office. One of the most popular outgoing presidents. Gore running from Clinton probably hurt him more than it helped. 

I think Gore hurt himself more that Clinton helped or hurt him. His campaign was pretty artless - esp early on.  And even the liberal press was writing nice things about W's time in Tx. Plus W caught the afterglow of GHWB's rapid rehabilitation from re-election loser to fondly remembered ex-prez.

It certainly never entered my mind that with all the legacy, expertise and connections that W had available to him that he would end up running the most outright incompetent WH since --- probably before Herbert Hoover.

Edited 15 hours ago by gehringer_2

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Nixon also lost his race for Governor in California. prompting the following quote saying, "you won't have Nixon to kick around anymore because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference."^[8]

 

I remember seeing that and hoping it might actually be true. Sadly not so much....

[chasfh]

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

And Nixon just barely edged Humphrey in the popular vote. I think the conventional wisdom is Wallace drained more votes from Nixon than Humphrey, but who really knows?  The South was still pretty nominally Democratic at that time so without a favorite son how many of those votes might have gone to Humphrey by habit?

Humphrey was charging toward the lead at the end and probably would have won were it not for the Chennault affair. 

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Oh **** that’s a genius move if they get away with it

so much for democracy

Edited 9 hours ago by chasfh

[oblong]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Humphrey was charging toward the lead at the end and probably would have won were it not for the Chennault affair. 

And they knew about it. LBJ was bugging planes and phones. He went to the majority leader and called it Treason. But they couldn’t say anything because they were illegally bugging.  Then Johnson calls Nixon and they do a verbal dance and a game of “I know that you know that I know…”. 
 

of course the question is whether they really would have had a deal. But Nixon and Kissinger sabatoged a potential deal for political purposes.