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[romad1]

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Forney is where my sister's fam lives.  They are beyond information.  If it wasn't written in the bible by Santa Claus it isn't real. 

[CMRivdogs]

47 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

everything has limits. There is no intrinsic law of the Universe that just because a particular set of words got put into the US Constitution they are necessarily the best rule for all societies for all time.

TBH, I think the rise of the mass media in the 20th century and now the rise of mass communication of any media in 21st has created a fundamental paradigm shift between the danger of suppressing speech and the danger of truth becoming impossibly hard to tease out of the avalanche of falsehood. I'm not sure what the all the answers should be, but the idea that 18th century implementations can be the only just ones for all people for all  times is an impossibly naive view of history.

Core values may remain but details are local. The core value here is not speech but truth. If your rules of speech do not support truth, you need to think about your rules again.

I like the reply. Basically the right to “Free Speech, expression, is theoretically supposed to protect you from government oppression for expressing their views. It still would be bad to scream fire in a crowded theatre.

It doesn’t protect you from rules made by private companies for example or getting your ass kicked at the local bar.And it doesn’t free you from all limits or consequences