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2 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said:

Who will the Tigers be looking to trade this deadline?

I think anyone but Dingler & McGonigle would be available for the right deal.   I doubt they're seeking to trade Madden, Melton, Greene or Keith.

Skubal, Mize, Valdez, anyone in the BP, Torkelson, Carpenter, Vierling, McKinstry would be among those they seek to move with any value at all and the latter 4 have very little value imo.   

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11 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

I think anyone but Dingler & McGonigle would be available for the right deal.   I doubt they're seeking to trade Madden, Melton, Greene or Keith.

Skubal, Mize, Valdez, anyone in the BP, Torkelson, Carpenter, Vierling, McKinstry would be among those they seek to move with any value at all and the latter 4 have very little value imo.   

I would actually give up a ton to get Dingler. He is an Ohio kid and the Reds are about 3 months from being desperate for catching. Stephenson is an FA, Trevino sucks and is hurt, and Duno is still 2 years away or so.

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35 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

I think anyone but Dingler & McGonigle would be available for the right deal.   I doubt they're seeking to trade Madden, Melton, Greene or Keith.

Skubal, Mize, Valdez, anyone in the BP, Torkelson, Carpenter, Vierling, McKinstry would be among those they seek to move with any value at all and the latter 4 have very little value imo.   

I think Tork has value, but he’s a guy another team is going to have to ask about, rather than Harris shopping him around, to get much more than a lottery ticket for him. 

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https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-trends-jacob-misiorowski-brewers-tigers-batting-average/

"Dillon Dingler, Riley Greene, and rookie Kevin McGonigle are a three-man army on offense. They combined for a .276/.370/.440 batting line with 17 homers and 5.5 WAR through 54 team games. The rest of the Tigers were hitting .213/.288/.336 with 29 home runs and minus-2.2 WAR. Three players who were important platoon bats in 2025 have been poor in 2026:"

Posted
2 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

If Tork went to Tampa he’d hit .330 with 50 HRs and win a gold glove.

And  I'd be happy for him.   I don't wish him ill, it simply hasn't worked out here like we all hoped it would.

Posted

I think I’d be surprised if Tork went anywhere else and became a perennial All-Star. He just seems resistant to coaching to me. No evidence that could stand up in court, just a strong feeling. 

Posted
1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I think I’d be surprised if Tork went anywhere else and became a perennial All-Star. He just seems resistant to coaching to me. No evidence that could stand up in court, just a strong feeling. 

can't disagree. Who knows, maybe there is a mentor out there somewhere who has the key to his lock but it's just random chance if he ever runs into him.

Posted
Just now, chasfh said:

Oyler also had an on base of .213 and a slug of .186. So, Tork is a better hitter than Ray Oyler was.     

Probably true even with the consideration that Oyler was probably facing better pitching from higher mounds and suspicious substances.

Posted
1 minute ago, NorthWoods said:

Probably true even with the consideration that Oyler was probably facing better pitching from higher mounds and suspicious substances.

Now there's a good debate to have: were pitchers in 1968 tougher to hit than pitchers in 2026 are?

Posted
24 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Now there's a good debate to have: were pitchers in 1968 tougher to hit than pitchers in 2026 are?

It was the year of the pitcher after all.   But also smaller population base offset by fewer teams, fewer latin/asian players but possibly more black players as a percentage.  A ton of factors there.

Posted
4 hours ago, NorthWoods said:

It was the year of the pitcher after all.   But also smaller population base offset by fewer teams, fewer latin/asian players but possibly more black players as a percentage.  A ton of factors there.

I think pitchers today transported back in time would put at least 80% of those pitchers in 1968 out of a job in no time flat.

Posted
5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think pitchers today transported back in time would put at least 80% of those pitchers in 1968 out of a job in no time flat.

or they'd all be dead the first year after being sent out every 4th day :classic_laugh:

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Posted
15 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think pitchers today transported back in time would put at least 80% of those pitchers in 1968 out of a job in no time flat.

Of course they would, but if they were brought up in the same period as the 1968 pitchers they would not have had all the advantages that made them who they are today.  They wouldn't have had the same training, technology, heath care, etc that they have today.   

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