Motor City Sonics Posted Wednesday at 11:17 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:17 AM 4 minutes ago, NorthWoods said: I was there. A million years ago. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted Wednesday at 11:20 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:20 AM And not a single roster move was to be found anywhere Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted Wednesday at 11:33 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:33 AM Mize is pitching tonight. So Tigers, you make sure that you don't score more than 1 run, okay? Think you can manage that? At least they aren't facing a lefty - so we won't have to see Zach Short in the lineup. HEY TIGERS - NOW THAT YOU REALIZE THAT YOU CAN USE McKINSTRY AT SHORTSTOP AGAIN - HOW ABOUT THIS Out - Perez, Jones, Short, Workman, IN - Anderson, Malgeri, Julks, Jung. Just try it. Just do something. The Hens are at Home this week. It's a one-hour drive from Toledo. TRY SOMETHING, TRY ANYTHING. WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING THESE TERRIBLE PLAYERS TO STAY HERE? CUT THEM. NOBODY WILL CLAIM JONES AND EVEN IF THEY DID - WHO CARES ?!?!? Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted Wednesday at 11:36 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:36 AM (edited) Welp, at least this will save me $20 a month when I cancel Detroit Sports Network. Glad I didn't pay for a year. By the way, I read somewhere that over the last 81 games the only two teams worse than the Tigers are the Angels and Rockies - and if the Angels win tonight, I think they pass the Tigers in the last half seasonf of suck. The Rockies, though. Bad enough team, but to have to play in that division too? If they were in the Tigers division, they might have a better record. Just checked. The last 81 games 1. Colorado 24-57 2. Detroit 29-52 3. LA Angels 29-52 Wow. Just wow. Edited Wednesday at 11:43 AM by Motor City Sonics Quote
NorthWoods Posted Wednesday at 12:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:35 PM 54 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: By the way, I read somewhere that over the last 81 games the only two teams worse than the Tigers are t The last 81 games 1. Colorado 24-57 2. Detroit 29-52 3. LA Angels 29-52 Wow. Just wow. People, including the front office and ownership of this team let the fact we were in the playoffs the last 2 years cloud their judgment. Harris has tinkered around the edges rather than making bigger moves. It's time to start chopping deeper, and seeing what some others can do. Quote
chasfh Posted Wednesday at 02:06 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:06 PM 3 hours ago, casimir said: In the 70s, he threw in the 90s; and in the 90s, he threw in the 70s. 1 1 Quote
chasfh Posted Wednesday at 02:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:08 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, NorthWoods said: People, including the front office and ownership of this team let the fact we were in the playoffs the last 2 years cloud their judgment. Harris has tinkered around the edges rather than making bigger moves. It's time to start chopping deeper, and seeing what some others can do. Seeing how players have done across the past two seasons, I thought it was fair for Harris to gamble on mostly internal development, as so many of our young players became a year older and presumably a year better. Now our 20-20 hindsight lets us see it isn't working out for all of them—at least as of today. That's one of the reasons I'm wondering whether we have the right development people in place throughout the system. Edited Wednesday at 02:09 PM by chasfh Quote
SoCalTiger Posted Wednesday at 04:11 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:11 PM 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Seeing how players have done across the past two seasons, I thought it was fair for Harris to gamble on mostly internal development, as so many of our young players became a year older and presumably a year better. Now our 20-20 hindsight lets us see it isn't working out for all of them—at least as of today. That's one of the reasons I'm wondering whether we have the right development people in place throughout the system. I agree with this sentiment and Harris was expecting McGonigle to contribute as well. Nobody could have foreseen such a total regression for so many players or so many injuries. having said that it's still far worse than it should be. Heck just don't get swept and a team can "hang in" the standings. Just please fix the defense. At least do that. This is embarrassing. 1 Quote
tiger2022 Posted Wednesday at 06:36 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:36 PM I'm gonna guess tanana wasn't on roids. Quote
tiger2022 Posted Wednesday at 06:41 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:41 PM Harris constructed the team like it is. Whether you agree with it or not, there really isn't a lot he can do to change it. I think he's done an awful job since he started and things just kind of worked out for him the last few years with minimal effort on his part, but you can't just go out and find amazing players at the end of May. You have what you have. You can only call up so many minor leaguers. And honestly, most of those guys are going to fail at the mlb level. They have to ride it out until next season when Harris will hopefully try to do something to improve the team. Quote
NorthWoods Posted Wednesday at 07:04 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:04 PM 22 minutes ago, tiger2022 said: You can only call up so many minor leaguers. And honestly, most of those guys are going to fail at the mlb level. Most would be an improvement over the all they'd be replacing. Quote
tiger2022 Posted Wednesday at 07:20 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:20 PM (edited) Would they though? I don't know if that's true. And there might be other reasons not to call minor leaguers up...40 man roster moves, guys definitely not ready to be in mlb and they don't want to ruin their confidence, maybe they want some of their better prospects to work on things in the minors against lesser competition so they won't be as stressed and they can have some success. Just calling up guys and expecting them to do the same against major league pitching as they do against AAA pitching is quite a leap. I think Torkelson could have used some more time in the minors. He wasn't particularly impressive in AA or AAA and they called up before he was ready because the Tigers wanted to appear that they were ready to compete. He could have spent another year (at least) in the minors. Some guys take longer to develop and throwing them into the top level too soon can be disastrous. I'm not saying that is why Tork failed, but it could be part of the reason. The Tigers did him a real disservice. I get it with older guys like Jace Jung, but he's been underwhelming at the plate his entire minor league career and has shown nothing when he was on the Tigers. Edited Wednesday at 07:23 PM by tiger2022 Quote
tiger2022 Posted Wednesday at 07:49 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:49 PM Another chance for Hinch to play 4-D chess against mere mortals. I'm guessing Mize comes out in the 4th after giving up an unearned run. Quote
Tigermojo Posted Wednesday at 08:15 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:15 PM Just strike out the first 27 batters and we should win. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted Wednesday at 08:36 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:36 PM 21 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: Just strike out the first 27 batters and we should win. Except it's the 28th batter who will get us. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM So now Wenceel is going to take his defensive skills to center field? Quote
NorthWoods Posted Wednesday at 09:23 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:23 PM 2 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: So now Wenceel is going to take his defensive skills to center field? Hopefully he'll stay awake unlike Vierling. Quote
tiger2022 Posted Wednesday at 10:46 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:46 PM After Greene the lineup sure takes a huge nosedive. You could actually probably let Mize hit and it wouldn't seem much different. But after 2 abs, you know Jones will pinch hit for Keith, so another sub .200 average in the lineup. Quote
IdahoBert Posted Wednesday at 10:50 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:50 PM You know, I don’t care if JV comes back. It popped up on my mlb.com. feed just now. I mean so what? If this team can’t score more than a couple runs a game these games are meaningless. This paint by numbers and going with the percentages things is something a team does because it’s weak. It’s amazing that it worked for as long as it did. But when you get a raft of pitching injuries and position player injuries, there’s nothing left to work with. If I were Mize or Skubal I wouldn’t want to stay with a team that is so weak I can’t give up three runs every now and then and expect to win, or the relief staff won’t hold a two-run lead in the eighth or ninth innings. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted Wednesday at 10:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:56 PM Perez is the worst player in MLB. Quote
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