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9 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

So take away Montero's worst 3 starts and then compare them. I guess my point of it being unfair to the team is that Hinch tells guys they have to keep winning so players dont get traded. If that's the case, Hinch owes it to the team to put the best possible team out there. And looking past Valdez's worse 3 starts just magnifies his inconsistency. Can he really ever be counted on? But, in all fairness, it's really nice having Montero in the bullpen. He comes in for quality multiple innings. So yeah, I guess either way, just having him on the staff is a win win situation.

Oh, I'm not saying its a right to bump Montero for Valdez.  Just illustrating that Valdez hasn't been a complete bust every time out.

I do like having Montero's availability for the bullpen.  It'd be great to have another couple of arms like that, although maybe with some more swing and miss.

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9 hours ago, TJ Rollercoaster said:

I had to look up who the above player was involved between the Tigers and Cubs, which jogged my memory.

He wasn't the first player essentially traded for themselves - long time forum members will definitely know the first player - Harry Chiti

Good pull on Chiti.

Dickie Noles was the Cub then Tiger then Cub.

Posted
13 minutes ago, casimir said:

Oh, I'm not saying its a right to bump Montero for Valdez.  Just illustrating that Valdez hasn't been a complete bust every time out.

I do like having Montero's availability for the bullpen.  It'd be great to have another couple of arms like that, although maybe with some more swing and miss.

Yeah, it's the way baseball is these days...guys with big contracts keep playing. Having Montero in the pen may actually be better than having him start every 5th day. He can help protect leads 2 or 3 times in a 5 day span. And I agree about the lack of swing and miss. He seems to pitch to contact and I'm not sure if he can continue getting weak contact. But he pounds the strike zone, that's something I really like.

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Tork with 2 hits.  Carp with A hit.  If that guy gets hot he's 1980s Kirk Gibson without the wheels. 

Hao Yu Lee is really emerging as a man of hitterly talents.  

 

Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, casimir said:

In the 1980s, the Tigers traded for a Cub in exchange of a player to be named later.  The player that was traded for ended up being the player to be named later.  I thought it was Moreland, but it’s another player.  I’ll offer 3,912 points (the points ain’t redeemable for diddly freaking pooh) to whomever comes up with the answer.

dickie noles.  strange coincidence -- noles had been in a trade earlier in his career for keith moreland

 

Edit: didn't see that many others responded already.  

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Posted
17 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

This feels really good. Winning this series on the road against a very good team is a big deal. I am happier than it is probably rational for me to be.

The have been playing like a playoff caliber team since the beginning of June.  Whether or they can catch up in two months remains to be seen, but they are playing like a team that should be in the playoffs.  

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