romad1 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 I hope and believe "Media Reform" could be like the Teddy Roosevelt;s "trust busters" as a political movement in the next cycle. Problem is that media control is aggregating faster than it can be reformed. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted September 22 Posted September 22 6 minutes ago, romad1 said: I hope and believe "Media Reform" could be like the Teddy Roosevelt;s "trust busters" as a political movement in the next cycle. Problem is that media control is aggregating faster than it can be reformed. The slow slide that started with lowering ownership restrictions with Reagan/Clinton seems to have turned into an avalanche. Back then no one could have foreseen what's been happening in recent years with things like streaming and such. Meanwhile while local cable restrictions have been lifted, governments seem content with monopolies in many markets. The promotion of companies like Verizon and T-Mobile for 5G for instance are basically a farce if you have multiple devices. I'm really not sure what real reform would look like these days Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 9 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: The slow slide that started with lowering ownership restrictions with Reagan/Clinton seems to have turned into an avalanche. Back then no one could have foreseen what's been happening in recent years with things like streaming and such. Meanwhile while local cable restrictions have been lifted, governments seem content with monopolies in many markets. The promotion of companies like Verizon and T-Mobile for 5G for instance are basically a farce if you have multiple devices. I'm really not sure what real reform would look like these days Media Oligarchs seem like they would be a fun target to run against. Hard to get the message out though, since well you know...they control the media. Quote
oblong Posted September 22 Posted September 22 49 minutes ago, romad1 said: we shall see I would trust them more if the argument was simply "It's wrong" and not the qualifier of "They'll do it to us...." I say that with regard to Cruz. I don't know much of what the others have said yet. Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 co-worker tells me Tulsi broke with Trump over 1st amendment. She is a weird outlier as it was. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted September 22 Posted September 22 27 minutes ago, romad1 said: Media Oligarchs seem like they would be a fun target to run against. Hard to get the message out though, since well you know...they control the media. They'd never run. Much easier to rent surrogates 1 Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 7 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: They'd never run. Much easier to rent surrogates Well every campaign is against the opponent on the ballot but also have big theme elections like the Contract with America was in the 90s. Run against Trumpism and for Media Reform. Reform has a power to it. Quote
Deleterious Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Best thing to do is have the government auction off the licenses and no longer have the FCC regulate those air waves. Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 17 minutes ago, Deleterious said: Best thing to do is have the government auction off the licenses and no longer have the FCC regulate those air waves. For whom? Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Kimmelgate is reaching a point of decision. ABC knows they f'd up. ‘Hour to Hour’: Kimmel Crisis Deepens at Disney as Comedy World Erupts Quote
chasfh Posted September 22 Posted September 22 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Well every campaign is against the opponent on the ballot but also have big theme elections like the Contract with America was in the 90s. Run against Trumpism and for Media Reform. Reform has a power to it. The tricky part is that the way the oligarchs and their surrogates have gotten us to hate and distrust the media, it might be he’ll of a job to get people fired up about restoring and preserving it. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted September 22 Posted September 22 (edited) Having spent time in the business from back to 1970. I just about to the opinion that media companies really don't need the sticks anymore. Edit We really need a nationwide initiative to improve and provide internet service for everyone. I think COVID made that clear, especially for rural areas and many inner cities. That's if we were serious about improving educational opportunities for everyone Edited September 22 by CMRivdogs Quote
ewsieg Posted September 22 Posted September 22 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Kimmelgate is reaching a point of decision. ABC knows they f'd up. ‘Hour to Hour’: Kimmel Crisis Deepens at Disney as Comedy World Erupts Even though you may argue ABC made the wrong decision (I agree in this case), it's tough to call this a f up. If Trump/FCC don't say anything (which they shouldn't, it wasn't an issue the WH needed to be involved in, IMO) then ABC doesn't even have a decision to make which they know will piss off a subset of folks. No way they wanted to do what they did, but for their shareholders, they can't be fighting the FCC. I love the idea of corporations going against their best interest to fight power, its also not really fair to expect them too. Quote
oblong Posted September 22 Posted September 22 The funny thing is everybody I’ve seen say they should fire him also admit they don’t like him and don’t want watch him. I record all 3 of them and skim them for guests and music. I typically avoid the monologues and bits. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 I’m pretty indifferent towards him. It’s obviously the government pressure to silence opposing views that dangerous (not that most of us here didn’t already know this). Quote
LaceyLou Posted September 22 Posted September 22 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Having spent time in the business from back to 1970. I just about to the opinion that media companies really don't need the sticks anymore. Edit We really need a nationwide initiative to improve and provide internet service for everyone. I think COVID made that clear, especially for rural areas and many inner cities. That's if we were serious about improving educational opportunities for everyone This-just like it was the right thing to provide electricity and phone service to people in the country (I'm blanking on the time frame-maybe about 100 years ago?). Quote
chasfh Posted September 22 Posted September 22 32 minutes ago, oblong said: The funny thing is everybody I’ve seen say they should fire him also admit they don’t like him and don’t want watch him. I record all 3 of them and skim them for guests and music. I typically avoid the monologues and bits. That's completely backwards from me and my wife. We see the monologues and bits and skip the guests unless we are really interested. 1 Quote
smr-nj Posted September 22 Posted September 22 * sigh * Where are the damn Epstein files. Release them.,Stop the distractions. Demand their release. EPSTEIN FILES. 1 1 Quote
oblong Posted September 22 Posted September 22 19 minutes ago, chasfh said: That's completely backwards from me and my wife. We see the monologues and bits and skip the guests unless we are really interested. We only watch if we are interested. I’d say half the time I just delete without watching. And a sure sign of getting older is we often have idea who the guests are. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Kimmel will be back Tuesday night. This will be the highest rated show of his entire career. The Standing O will be 10 minutes long. Quote
oblong Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Just now, RatkoVarda said: That’s why he’s not in the sequel trilogy. Quote
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