chasfh Posted September 23 Posted September 23 6 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Nexstar is in the process of purchasing another 56 or so stations from TENGA Broadcasting many of them ABC affiliates. Flood the FCC with letters requesting they do not approve this merger as it waters down the competition in the market By the time the deal goes through and they take control of the Tenga stations, the Kimmel thing will be a distant memory, supplanted by hundreds of subsequent horrors big and small, and all super important for one news cycle. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted September 23 Posted September 23 If ABC, on their own accord decided to suspend Jimmy Kimmel it's not a free speech violation. Your employer has a right to make that decidsion But when the FCC pressures ABC to suspend someone, then it IS a free speech violation. Pretty thick hair to split there. Gilbert Gottfried getting fired by Aflac after offensive comments post 2011 earthquake is not a violation. Obama never pressured Aflac to do it. Hey, we're going to hire a comedian known for his vulgar humor - nothing could go wrong there, huh? 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted September 24 Posted September 24 3 hours ago, romad1 said: Sinclair has the Washington DC ABC station which means they are serving their very angry customers by denying them the 1st Amendment. Sinclair owns stations in Rochester, NY, St Louis and the Champaign/Urbana/Peoria/Springfield markets. Their ownership leans red, but it's more mixed than is given credit for. Nexstar is similar, they own stations all across Upstate New York (Syracuse, Binghamton Albany), Hartford CT, and Richmond VA. I don't see any way how this doesn't harm all of them more than Disney/ABC running Kimmel harms Disney. Quote
Archie Posted September 24 Posted September 24 4 hours ago, chasfh said: I forget—which FCC commissioner was it who publicly called for ABC to remove Roseanne from the show? Disney also fired Gina Carano from the Mandelorian for her conservative comments. I think she won a lawsuit against them. Was that wrong? Kimmel comments were over the top and in very bad taste. He should be punished by his employer for being stupid and making them look bad. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted September 24 Posted September 24 7 minutes ago, Archie said: Disney also fired Gina Carano from the Mandelorian for her conservative comments. I think she won a lawsuit against them. Was that wrong? Kimmel comments were over the top and in very bad taste. He should be punished by his employer for being stupid and making them look bad. But it's not up to the FCC to force that......... Quote
romad1 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 10 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: But it's not up to the FCC to force that......... I do remember when that bint was fired as a result of Joe Biden ordering the FCC to make it so. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: But it's not up to the FCC to force that......... exactly. If ABC or Sinclair pull a show the right or the left argue the merits and can make as big a deal about it and try to create all the PR and economic pressure over it they can, and ALL of THAT is just a matter of free commerce. As soon as the US Government or any of it's duly authorized representatives, in particular a regulator of said media, weigh in, THEN it's immediately a potential constitutional issue. Don't know why this has be clarified and re-clarified at every one of these episodes. The same public that can remember what happened on Survivor Season 1 episode 5 can't keep a little constitutional knowledge in their head long enough to bridge from one media controversy to the next. Edited September 24 by gehringer_2 Quote
mtutiger Posted September 24 Posted September 24 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: exactly. If ABC or Sinclair pull a show the right or the left argue the merits and can make as big a deal about it and try to create all the PR and economic pressure over it they can, and ALL of THAT is just a matter of free commerce. As soon as the US Government or any of it's duly authorized representatives, in particular a regulator of said media, weigh in, THEN it's immediately a potential constitutional issue. Don't know why this has be clarified and re-clarified at every one of these episodes. The same public that can remember what happened on Survivor Season 1 episode 5 can't keep a little constitutional knowledge in their head long enough to bridge from one media controversy to the next. I mean, the horse has been beaten to absolute death in this thread, yet whether it's Tigeraholic or Archie, the message still seems to fly over their heads. Almost seems like willful ignorance at this point Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 14 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Why not throw in a little extortion on top of the government overreach. 1 Quote
GalagaGuy Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Kimmel is going scorched earth on Trump and Carr. Quote
ewsieg Posted September 24 Posted September 24 10 hours ago, Archie said: Were you guys in the same uproar when Rosanne Barr was removed from her TV show for her views? How about when Donald Trump when he was removed from Social Media over his views? Kimmel has been wronged because you agree with what he said? Two things 1) I've done it too, I'm sure most of us have, but I feel like I notice it more now..... I don't get how pointing out supposed hypocrisy of the other side is a good argument because you are admitting by using this type of argument that you were upset 'When X, Y, or Z happened' and are choosing to be hypocritical now because others were hypocritical back then. 2) You didn't even use the correct examples. The government was not involved in the Barr thing and he violated the TOS of Twitter, again, no government involvement. The correct example would be Biden's administration informing the socials what accounts/topics to shadow ban. I was livid about it back then and I think people that care about free speech should be livid now too. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted September 24 Posted September 24 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: In a sane world this could open up a whole new can of worms. It would allow any center of left leaning group could go after every radio station owner in the country that airs “conservative” talk and make it a test case. I would love to see someone challenge whatever Clear Channel or whatever they’re calling themselves today tiptoe around a case like that. Same with every owner who airs a preacher who ventures into the political space during one of their on air sessions Quote
romad1 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Kimmel was good. The "We are all Charlie Hebdo" approach is correct. Quote
romad1 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Call to violence from FN propagandists don't have any potential expectation of violence do they? Fox News broadcaster suggests UN should be 'bombed' over Donald Trump escalator malfunction | News US | Metro News Quote
pfife Posted September 24 Author Posted September 24 50 minutes ago, romad1 said: Call to violence from FN propagandists don't have any potential expectation of violence do they? Fox News broadcaster suggests UN should be 'bombed' over Donald Trump escalator malfunction | News US | Metro News The lefts rhetoric caused this 1 Quote
chasfh Posted September 24 Posted September 24 12 hours ago, Archie said: Disney also fired Gina Carano from the Mandelorian for her conservative comments. I think she won a lawsuit against them. Was that wrong? Kimmel comments were over the top and in very bad taste. He should be punished by his employer for being stupid and making them look bad. Remind me again who the FCC commissioner was who called for Gina Carano's firing? Quote
chasfh Posted September 24 Posted September 24 10 hours ago, mtutiger said: I mean, the horse has been beaten to absolute death in this thread, yet whether it's Tigeraholic or Archie, the message still seems to fly over their heads. Almost seems like willful ignorance at this point lol almost Quote
pfife Posted September 24 Author Posted September 24 9 hours ago, ewsieg said: The correct example would be Biden's administration informing the socials what accounts/topics to shadow ban. I was livid about it back then and I think people that care about free speech should be livid now too. The right just wanted hunter biden nudes Quote
chasfh Posted September 24 Posted September 24 9 hours ago, GalagaGuy said: Kimmel is going scorched earth on Trump and Carr. Why not? Does he really have anything to lose at this point? Quote
CMRivdogs Posted September 24 Posted September 24 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Call to violence from FN propagandists don't have any potential expectation of violence do they? Fox News broadcaster suggests UN should be 'bombed' over Donald Trump escalator malfunction | News US | Metro News Good thing the First Lady took action and started walking. Who knows how long Dear Leader would have been stuck on that contraption Quote
chasfh Posted September 24 Posted September 24 16 minutes ago, pfife said: The lefts rhetoric caused this They are literally inviting some hella motivated viewer to bomb the UN. Quote
oblong Posted September 24 Posted September 24 4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Good thing the First Lady took action and started walking. Who knows how long Dear Leader would have been stuck on that contraption She must have been a Mitch Hedberg fan 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted September 24 Posted September 24 1 minute ago, oblong said: how can this guy be so stupid? Are you sure it's Morgan or his viewers. I have money on the latter Quote
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