pfife Posted October 13 Author Posted October 13 Surely coincidence: We’re Now a Conservative Opinion Page,’ Declares Washington Post Columnist https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/were-now-a-conservative-opinion-page-declares-washington-post-columnist/ Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 (edited) 34 minutes ago, pfife said: Surely coincidence: We’re Now a Conservative Opinion Page,’ Declares Washington Post Columnist https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/were-now-a-conservative-opinion-page-declares-washington-post-columnist/ Thiessen is in general a total goof. But Wapo has been almost devoid of any direction the last few years as Bezos can't decide what he's doing there. Edited October 13 by gehringer_2 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 This is what more people in the media need to do. 2 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 14 Posted October 14 (edited) When you lose Faux Edited October 14 by CMRivdogs Quote
pfife Posted October 14 Author Posted October 14 Hilarious its even a bit much for their propagandists I bet theyll change their minds soon Quote
romad1 Posted October 18 Posted October 18 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/18/opinion/pentagon-journalists-news-hegseth.html?unlocked_article_code=1.uU8.-qL8.1SDBlM9rXM-s&smid=url-share the WOD is getting Mo Dowd's attention. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 18 Posted October 18 https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/no-kings-protesters-peacefully-dispersed-185700757.html Quote VIRGINIA BEACH — A crowd of around a few thousand that packed into the city’s Town Center Saturday to protest President Donald Trump and his administration at a “No Kings” rally were asked by police to disperse earlier than scheduled because of the size of the crowd, according to an organizer. Virginia Beach Police asked protesters to leave about an hour and half early because of the large number of participants and an event scheduled for later that evening, according to Carrie Short, one of the event’s organizers. Because police had been so helpful, Short asked the crowd to respect their wishes and move away from the fountain area where the rally was centered. Many of the protesters groaned in response, but then clapped in appreciation for the police. The group then proceeded peacefully to Virginia Beach Boulevard, where they stretched out across several blocks, holding up signs and cheering as motorists honked in support. Seemed very friendly at the beach. Now if they would only bring back The Jewish Mother.... 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 22 Posted October 22 When you've lost the Washington Times... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/oct/20/lost-us-generals-senior-officers-say-trust-hegseth-evaporated/ Quote Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has lost the trust and respect of some top military commanders, with his public “grandstanding” widely seen as unprofessional and the personnel moves made by the former cable TV host leading to an unprecedented and dangerous exodus of talent from the Pentagon, said current senior military officers and current and former Defense Department officials. Numerous high-ranking officers painted Mr. Hegseth’s Sept. 30 speech to hundreds of generals and admirals gathered at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia as a turning point in how his leadership style, attitude and overall competency are viewed in the upper echelons of the U.S. armed forces. “It was a massive waste of time. … If he ever had us, he lost us,” one current Army general told The Washington Times. Quote
chasfh Posted October 22 Posted October 22 13 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: When you've lost the Washington Times... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/oct/20/lost-us-generals-senior-officers-say-trust-hegseth-evaporated/ The Times likes the cut of his jib ... ahem ... in general, but they probably don't like Hegseth focusing too much on horse**** woke issues and not enough on mowing down No Kings attendees. Quote
guy incognito Posted October 27 Posted October 27 And the Foxification of CBS News continues. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5574831-john-dickerson-leaves-cbs/ 1 Quote
chasfh Posted October 28 Posted October 28 17 hours ago, guy incognito said: And the Foxification of CBS News continues. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5574831-john-dickerson-leaves-cbs/ It feels as though she's just stripping the network for parts until she goes inside the White House in a communications role and help the regime strip the rest of the country for parts. 1 1 Quote
chasfh Posted October 29 Posted October 29 4 hours ago, romad1 said: Killing 60 minutes was a huge coup for the RW. I’ve been thinking about checking in to see what the Evening News looks like but I’m afraid to look. Quote
ewsieg Posted October 29 Posted October 29 22 hours ago, chasfh said: It feels as though she's just stripping the network for parts until she goes inside the White House in a communications role and help the regime strip the rest of the country for parts. I'm not saying i'm confident in anything Weiss does, but I didn't see the left calling this the 'foxification' of CBS when they took O'Donnell off of the air due to bad ratings not that long ago. They tried something, it didn't work, they are going to try something else. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Bezos has gone full MAGA. All that is missing from this "survey" is "Do you want your daughter to be raped by a tranny? yes or no." Quote
chasfh Posted October 29 Posted October 29 2 hours ago, ewsieg said: I'm not saying i'm confident in anything Weiss does, but I didn't see the left calling this the 'foxification' of CBS when they took O'Donnell off of the air due to bad ratings not that long ago. They tried something, it didn't work, they are going to try something else. That's a disingenuous take. This is clearly more than just "trying something else" as though they're filling a marketplace need. Quote
ewsieg Posted October 29 Posted October 29 8 minutes ago, chasfh said: That's a disingenuous take. This is clearly more than just "trying something else" as though they're filling a marketplace need. I initially was a little put off that you would say I was disingenuous, sarcastic...yes, disingenuous isn't something I feel I am though. That said, I looked it up: definition - not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. I do find myself often pretending to not know as much as I do so I don't sound too smart. That's the cross I have to bear because of my intelligence. 😉 In this instance, I can assure you I wasn't being disingenuous though. I can't remember the last time I watched the nightly news and when I did, I don't think I could tell you which station it even was. I do know O'Donnell was brought in to revive the ratings, but she didn't. She was let go because of that. I know nothing about this new duo that replaced her, except that ratings haven't improved. You could argue they deserved more time, but we all got to this political forum based on our love of sports, so a new president/GM/owner coming in and putting in the folks they want, doesn't seem that crazy to me. Just like not every decision Trump makes is some masterful 4d chess move, despite of all the 'proof' Archie and Tigerholic provide to support the brilliant 4d chess moves, not every decision made by someone that doesn't fully side with democrats is some brilliant 4d chess move to help provide the crowning of King Trump. Quote
chasfh Posted October 29 Posted October 29 2 hours ago, ewsieg said: I initially was a little put off that you would say I was disingenuous, sarcastic...yes, disingenuous isn't something I feel I am though. That said, I looked it up: definition - not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. I do find myself often pretending to not know as much as I do so I don't sound too smart. That's the cross I have to bear because of my intelligence. 😉 In this instance, I can assure you I wasn't being disingenuous though. I can't remember the last time I watched the nightly news and when I did, I don't think I could tell you which station it even was. I do know O'Donnell was brought in to revive the ratings, but she didn't. She was let go because of that. I know nothing about this new duo that replaced her, except that ratings haven't improved. You could argue they deserved more time, but we all got to this political forum based on our love of sports, so a new president/GM/owner coming in and putting in the folks they want, doesn't seem that crazy to me. Just like not every decision Trump makes is some masterful 4d chess move, despite of all the 'proof' Archie and Tigerholic provide to support the brilliant 4d chess moves, not every decision made by someone that doesn't fully side with democrats is some brilliant 4d chess move to help provide the crowning of King Trump. I wasn't calling you disingenuous. I was calling your take disingenuous, because you're pretending it's about media business as usual, and it most obviously is not. We all know what Bari Weiss was brought in to do, and it wasn't to tinker around the edges with personnel to boost ratings by a few micropoints. Between emotional resignations by decades-tenured news chiefs and the network throwing money at Donald Trump because they did actual journalism, nobody is buying the story that Bari Weiss is coming in as an honest actor to shore up CBS's integrity. It's laughable on its face. Quote
ewsieg Posted October 30 Posted October 30 19 hours ago, chasfh said: I wasn't calling you disingenuous. I was calling your take disingenuous, because you're pretending it's about media business as usual, and it most obviously is not. We all know what Bari Weiss was brought in to do, and it wasn't to tinker around the edges with personnel to boost ratings by a few micropoints. Between emotional resignations by decades-tenured news chiefs and the network throwing money at Donald Trump because they did actual journalism, nobody is buying the story that Bari Weiss is coming in as an honest actor to shore up CBS's integrity. It's laughable on its face. I do think Bari believes she's an honest actor trying to shore up CBS, but I think she understands the reality that media is no longer about Integrity, it's about ratings. So I do think that's what she's trying to shore up. I do think she cares about integrity as well, but that's more of a 'plus' than a feature. Plus I don't think she's got a great track record of not showing bias, so that's not a plus for her. As far as decades tenured news chiefs, they were pissed off someone without extensive mgmt background was picked. Everyone either has a story, or knows someone well, that has a story about a company choosing someone for a position over someone else that on paper seemed to be a more obvious pick. People leave jobs every day for that reason. There are also stories where that decision turned out to be great, and others disastrous. Based on the trend of media today, my guess is if it's 'successful', that will still be disastrous for a society that needs good journalism. We need good journalism under democrats too, God only knows how much better a position we'd be in if some of those decades-tenured news chiefs bothered to force Biden to account for his positions. Might have led to him not running and giving the dems a chance to mount a legitimate race against Trump. Quote
chasfh Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: I do think Bari believes she's an honest actor trying to shore up CBS, but I think she understands the reality that media is no longer about Integrity, it's about ratings. So I do think that's what she's trying to shore up. I do think she cares about integrity as well, but that's more of a 'plus' than a feature. Plus I don't think she's got a great track record of not showing bias, so that's not a plus for her. As far as decades tenured news chiefs, they were pissed off someone without extensive mgmt background was picked. Everyone either has a story, or knows someone well, that has a story about a company choosing someone for a position over someone else that on paper seemed to be a more obvious pick. People leave jobs every day for that reason. There are also stories where that decision turned out to be great, and others disastrous. Based on the trend of media today, my guess is if it's 'successful', that will still be disastrous for a society that needs good journalism. We need good journalism under democrats too, God only knows how much better a position we'd be in if some of those decades-tenured news chiefs bothered to force Biden to account for his positions. Might have led to him not running and giving the dems a chance to mount a legitimate race against Trump. We'll have to agree to disagree on this. As I see it, the only way your supposition here works is either/or (1) Bari Weiss knows in her heart of hearts she's a regime hack but she goes through the mental jujitsu of convincing her topline self she's an honest actor for the sake of appearing consistent in public; (b) her idea of integrity is wildly different than the definition that has been established for traditional journalism as practiced by the most respected organizations around the world—by which I mean, integrity as defintionally reworked by people who openly want to smash tradition journalism to bits as their first priority. Quote
ewsieg Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) Well, journalists/editors have long had ideas of what integrity meant and many have often found ways to convince themselves that they aren't putting their own bias into their stories. Overall, journalism was much better years ago. 1) There was more money in that field and 2) there wasn't direct competition from clickbait style journalism. As a result you also had a higher percentage of folks educated in journalism doing the job back then too. I'm not saying Bari is a good journalist. I think she's done some good work on articles i've read of hers, but I also think when she gets passionate about something, she focuses too much on the evidence that supports and underlying belief. That's not unheard of in that industry, but it is what has separated the best from the hacks. In the end, not much will change. When CBS puts out a story that sides with your beliefs, you're going to say 'heck, even the CBS agrees with me.' and when they don't, well of course it's because of Bari destroying the CBS brand in your view. Edited October 31 by ewsieg Quote
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