lordstanley Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 9 road games. 5 home games starting tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 Wings will need another 3rd period comeback. Trailing Vegas 3-1 after 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 this game was lost from the minute nobody on Larkin's line bothered to get back on the Eichel goal. Listless performance by virtually every Wing on the ice tonight other than maybe Husso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 the schedule toughens up and the losses start coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 after watching yet another loss to yet another good team, it gets sort of depressing to think of how far away the wings still are. there is no jack eichel or jack hughes or austin matthews or mitch marner on this team. nor is there one in the farm system, to be honest. seider is playing a bit better, but he's still nothing like he was last year. edvinsson isnt doing much statistically at GR (although i havent seen any games so i dont know how he's playing). all we have to go on for kasper is highlights from sweden, but he doesnt look like a scoring dynamo, and instead looks more like dylan larkin (not a bad thing at all, but not a world beater). plus their best trade chip is hurt and probably untradeable (unless you think larkin is getting moved...). bert being out and vrana bring drunk have really killed this team. what might have been a borderline playoff team is now firmly stuck in no man's land: too bad for the playoffs, too good for the top of the lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, buddha said: bert being out and vrana bring drunk have really killed this team. what might have been a borderline playoff team is now firmly stuck in no man's land: Guys in the booth talking about being excited to get Zadina back. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Guys in the booth talking about being excited to get Zadina back. Really? i guess theyre required to say nice things about wings players. zadina has shown nothing this year to change the perception of him as another wasted late holland draft pick. chock up veleno in that group too. with the caveat that both are still young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 The Wings are still a borderline playoff team. Nothing more, but also nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, buddha said: i guess theyre required to say nice things about wings players. zadina has shown nothing this year to change the perception of him as another wasted late holland draft pick. chock up veleno in that group too. with the caveat that both are still young. Zadina was a wasted pick. I had such high hopes for all their top-40 picks that year. None of Zadina, Veleno, Berggren or McIsaac look to be future difference-makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Zadina was a wasted pick. I had such high hopes for all their top-40 picks that year. None of Zadina, Veleno, Berggren or McIsaac look to be future difference-makers. to get basically nothing from three straight drafts has killed this team. not to mention multiple first round picks and top ten picks. its just killed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, buddha said: to get basically nothing from three straight drafts has killed this team. not to mention multiple first round picks and top ten picks. its just killed them. What's really depressing is that this could be said for the Tigers and Pistons as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, lordstanley said: Zadina was a wasted pick. I had such high hopes for all their top-40 picks that year. None of Zadina, Veleno, Berggren or McIsaac look to be future difference-makers. Veleno is frustrating because he shows little flashes but never maintains those moments of intensity for long. Berggren is going to produce more than Veleno or Zadina. How much? IDK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 Blowing a 3-goal lead to Columbus would be a season low. 3-2 now but with still 18 minutes to go in regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 copp with a nifty goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 Columbus a reliable mini-slump buster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) so they are playing Seider in front of the net on the penalty kill and yes he's a big guy, but I still wonder if that isn't a waste of his mobility. Edited December 5, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 10:55 AM, lordstanley said: Zadina was a wasted pick. I had such high hopes for all their top-40 picks that year. None of Zadina, Veleno, Berggren or McIsaac look to be future difference-makers. I will say, Berggren is on a 52 point pace over a full season since being called up and I've thought he's looked like a solid NHLer. I'm quite happy with that myself. I didn't watch the last few games since I was in Philadelphia though so maybe he's looked bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: I will say, Berggren is on a 52 point pace over a full season since being called up and I've thought he's looked like a solid NHLer. I'm quite happy with that myself. I didn't watch the last few games since I was in Philadelphia though so maybe he's looked bad. He gets a lot of praise from Mickey for making smart small detail plays that most young players don't - for instance just a little extra delay move to kill time on clearing pass while the rest of team was make a line change. My impression has been that he is pretty consistent is making his presence felt when he is out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) I think you both (Sloth and Gehringer) are probably right about Berggren. He could well turn into solid NHLer. I was just hoping for one of the four picks to really break out from their draft position and well exceed expectations. I think Zadina is a below-average #5-#7 pick, not even considering that on draft day we felt we had stolen a #3 or so. Berggren seems fine for a #33 overall, but nothing that special. I don't think a re-draft of Veleno would put him any higher than his #30, probably lower. And who knows about McIsaac, snakebit. I don't have an Atlantic subscription so not sure what they came up with. Edited December 6, 2022 by lordstanley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Zadina drops to 16th. And McIsaac all the way to 78th. Veleno surprisingly jumps up to 24th. Berggren basically steady at 35. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 Wings holding in their own through the 1st period. If anything, they should leading. 0-0 after 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 You know it was odd to me when I saw the starting 2nd line of Suter & Kubalik with Rasmussen Centering but.... guess what? 1-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: You know it was odd to me when I saw the starting 2nd line of Suter & Kubalik with Rasmussen Centering but.... guess what? 1-0. I like that Lalonde mixes and matches a bit. I know the risk is sometimes you may give up a little potential with your 'best' line, but OTOH I don't think there is any double that on some nights you try something and some guys just click together ever if it's only short term. Maybe one of the things Blashell was too rigid about. Scotty was never shy about trying different guys together - can't have a higher recommendation than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 My guess is Lalonde wanted some tough defense on the 2nd line with also some scoring prowess... Just a guess... But yeah... a little mixing and matching can sometimes yield a gold nugget...l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Haven't been able to watch closely but leading after 2 is great to see! Hopefully they keep playing hard and don't shell up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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