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Cleveland has the advantage against Detroit in offense, starting pitching, bullpen , defense, and manager. For like the 10th straight year.

Holten and Vest are not who they used to be and the bullpen is now a big problem. The offense provides low scoring and the bullpen can't keep the razor thin margin from evaporating. Home runs do increase margins but we aren't getting any "Earl Weavers" so we are resorting to small ball but none of our players have the skill set to bunt or hit and run and our base running, once a strength, is killing us wether it's rookie mistake like Lee or a veteran like McStinky. Add in the defense and wow. The positives are Anderson looks like he might be a decent starter, Mize was sharp in his return, Melton should return on Sunday and Skubal by the end of June is realistic. If we can get some defenders back and shed the team of Workman, Short, Lee and Perez just maybe we can right this ship and salvage the season. But catching Cleveland looks very hard at this point being 8 down and the Guardians looking pretty solid. They won't help us by beating themselves. They are very well managed and coached.

Also not a good sign that Vest's FB was down 2mph or a bit more from yesterday. Vest is not the guy we need him to be if he isn't dialing up 98mph consistently.

Castle has 20 turnovers through the first two games.

Some interesting calls and no calls in that one. No call on this one

It's that time of year again. People who have no more info than us just come up with random thoughts and throw them out there as if they're news. At best it's floated by the agent to drum up interest. The next person to post it will say "rumored" and after a few of those we'll start seeing them say "sources".

I really hope you're not trying to blame Hinch for Will Vest crapping the bed. If you're going to complain because Finnegan was used in the 5th inning, the bottom line is that it worked and the Tigers went to the 9th with the lead. Use someone else instead of Finnegan in the 5th and for all you know, the Tigers are down 3 runs in the bottom of the ninth.

And the Pirates have won more games than the Mets this year. 😀 And Tampa Bay has won more than the Dodgers!

but that's why baseball is so screwed up. The Dodgers or Mets don't care if they spend the money - it's not stupid for them, they can make it back, but Pittsburgh has to try to play on the same playing field. Is there any other sport with that kind of imbalance in the options available between the franchises?

Baseball is all about gambling now and it's going to get worse. Maybe that's even worse than a lockout? That is where they make their money and they'll figure out how to get more of it into the sport and split up the money. I think there won't be a long work stoppage

they could easily cut costs by not signing stupid free agent contracts.

It's different this time. Baseball is not on very stable ground when it comes to media rights. Baseball has turned into an Old Guy sport. Younger people just aren't all that into it anymore. The complete disconnect with Black kids is a major problem, as you see fewer Black players. The fact that little league has lost it's innocence and just turned into a cash cow now doesn't help. I think the people in charge of baseball still think it's America's Past Time. Now, it's just passed it's time and it's on the downslope now. This thing hitting the concert industry right now (Blue Dot Fever), is gonna hit baseball too. Family of four - MLB game. $400 night, probably. You don't win fans over with that. Plus you take the fact that realistically 25 out of the 30 teams have no legitimate shot at a title and the game is in trouble. I got news for ya, once the new car smell wears off in Las Vegas, that's going to be a complete disaster. But some of these baseball guys still think it's bigger than football. Some of them are dillusional. That won't help. The players union chief getting in a stupid scandal just ahead of this probably won't help. This is going to be a mess. Like the NHL season we lost. Took of year of everyone being idle to realize they need to compromise. Same thing'll happen here.

no doubt the injuries are the over all killer for total wins and losses, but recently there have been issues of basic execution by Riley, Tork, McK, Perez and on the pitching side Valdez and Flaherty. Those are your regulars - or close to regulars in Perez' case. It's like a contagion.

I think the narrative is that there is at least a subset of owners who are demanding cost control. Think of all those teams that had Fox/Bally/FanDuel collapse out from under them, do you believe they were able to shift over MLB production without taking a cut in revenue? Or a least a cut from what they could previously project future revenue to be? That has probably never happened before. I tend to think this round is about issues between/among the owners. The question being how the dynamic plays out between small market, middle market and the rich clubs. I'm sure the clubs with big money aren't looking for a stoppage, and if they hold sway there won't be. They have the option of agreeing to more revenue sharing which would probably satisfy the rest of the clubs. But if not, and a big enough subset of small and middle market teams stand their ground together, it's a different calculus. The union won't give anything back so I see it as coming down to how much more the teams with money agree to share.

There is always some big issue at stake, they make compomises and both sides always come out just fine! I am not convinced this time is any different. Multi-millionaires fighting with billionaires. Yawn.

Salary cap talk. Players dont want it and billionaire owners wanna protect their billions. Otherwise, they may run outta money. Lol

A lockout would be better than having to watch this. the tigers with skubal are a little bit above .500. the tigers without skubal have a bottom 5 record in the league. how long do we expect the tigers to have one of the top starters in baseball? not long... baseball is a long season and lots of things can turn around in that time, but it sure doesnt look good for the current management crew.

With 2 strikes, agreed, you need to protect the plate. Not looking for a fastball and getting it makes you look very foolish. Getting fooled on a breaking ball is understandable but a fastball? Ugh...poor piece of hitting. But again, there's plenty of blame to go around. As a great man once said...it is what it is. 🥺

Oh my! I'm sorry I asked. The pigmen are happy once again. This is nuts. From my Debbie downer side, these IPO's are chasing the bubble before it blows the **** up. For those who don't follow, from Investopedia a primer on stock float; Understanding a Company's Float: Key Facts for Investors Float's only a part of this but helps understand. There is all kind of stuff going on here. Once again, proud of the pigmen; the swine crook swindlers and criminals they are. But hey, they run the world. It's good to be the king. Then I had to look. The question - who is the bank behind this? The usual suspects!!!!! That's ****in funny right there. Who could have possibly saw that coming?

Why are people talking about a lockout next year like it's a foregone conclusion? Every time the labor contract ends, there is lots of negativity and acrimony, but there hasn't been a season destroying work stoppage in 32 years.

But it's not really fair to say that about this Tiger team. Take the same amount of players that we have injured off of any team in baseball and they would struggle, maybe even worse. We have an entire pitching staff injured. Starting CF, a possible starting SS, starting 2nd baseman and AAA players filling in. No team has the depth to cover all of those injuries

seems like a guy destined to end up on the lakers in their quiotic pursuit of a last lebron championship.

I think Riley was sitting on a yakker from a wild pitcher on a 1-2 count, which is reasonable, but yeah, you could also argue he should have been still ready enough for the heat enough to at least foul it off.