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of course not.

I think they are mutually exclusive states by definition, altough they he could know what he's doing sometimes and be unhinged at other times. I think he knows what he is a doing at a general level, but gets frustrated by strategic details and has hissy fits when things don't go according to his plan. At any rate, he has always come acros as a very unimpressive person to me and it makes me sad/frustrated to see the entire country revolving around his shallow immature whims.

You landed one of the better centers in the league. He is under contract for 2 more season at $20 million per. The 5th pick isn't exactly producing good results lately. Bailey, Holland, Ausar, Ivey, Suggs, Okoro, Garland, Young, Fox, Dunn. Then after seeing the cornucopia of small guards Sam has in that range, it was good move. It is odd seeing a GM take the blame though. Nico is confused.

If we used Wyoming as a base. The number of seats would expand to 580. That seems doable to me.

That's where proportional voting comes into play. Third parties would have a better chance of representation. Especially in multi member districts.

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I have no issue against districts. Or even multi districts. I'm not sure there is a perfect system that can't be gamed in some way. Just my belief that if I live in ab state that usually votes 55-45 in statewide contests, representatives should be proportioned that way. The problem is that land gets in the way. If multimember districts restrict the number of reps from the various parties in a particular race and start forcing us (voters, citizens, whatever) to form coalitions.. But then if men were angels... Jefferson and Adams had to go and screw things up. If they hadn't someone else would have...

More seats would also reduce the electoral college imbalance created by the Senate. I'd like to see them go to 500 reps. Nice round number but not that much harder to manage than 435. Even better would be floating the senate to 200 with the additional 100 seats allotted by population. Much bigger lift of course - but it's on my list with the Constitutional amendments to reverse CU and gerrymandering.

Exactly. It doesn’t solve gerrymandering as long as someone is drawing lines. Michigan’s districts are pretty good the way they are. You typically get a 7-6 split with about 2-3 competitive districts. The rest of the country should follow Michigan.

having more than two viable parties would be even better!

Looks like gerrymandering. Especially since the most recent statewide elections seem to be close to a 50-50 split. And I still prefer multi-member districts with proportionality

yup - the difficulty with proportional systems is that they drive toward a net 'at large' system were people are not attached to particular geographies. That can be good and bad, but I think the bad outweighs the good. As an example of the worst result of at-large representation you had Detroit, where when the City's Black population started to grow at then end of WWI, they shifted to at-large election of all city council members to preserve an all white city council. That outcome was not only racist, but resulted in a politics were no-one spoke up for preservation of neighborhoods. Believe it or not, it took until 2009 before the charter was finally changed back to a district system (mostly).

I did and one that is actually feasible. Congress can expand the house. More seats means states will run out of opportunities to gerrymander. There would also need to be a new voting rights act on proportionality creating districts. I can probably create a 11D-2R map. Metro Detroit is only the three counties. That’s +5. Mid Michigan is Washtenaw, Ingham, Genesse and the city of Saginaw. West is Kent County, Kalamazoo county and Benton Harbor and St Joseph. Pack Republicans in the rest. I actually like this plan.

The Duffy's are on a paid road trip paid for by companies that the Duffy's regulate. Clarence Thomas frequently takes gifts from his 'friend' the wealthy oligarch. To think how much sweating people have done over their FDF in the government over the years.

As I said before, everything in gerrymandered in some way. With proportional voting even an R-10 district can elect a D. Given the D gets enough votes to meet the threshold. We're talking about 2 or more reps here. Especially if you include ranked choice voiting. OR YOU comenup with a better system instead of criticizing everything

there's a lot about the roberts court i dont like (believe it or not), and their stances on campaign finance rules and election rules are two of the biggest. the inability of states to regulate their campaign finance rules has led to so many bad results, imo. i dont think theyve done anything to undermine the principle of one man/one vote, but ymmv. i dislike gerrymandering in all forms, and that includes racial gerrymandering. on principle alone, i dont see why people must vote for someone who has the same skin color as they do. i am perfectly capable of being represented by a black person (and am represented by minorities at all levels) and a black person is perfectly capable of being represented by a white person. however, that may be a particularly pollyanish view of mine. it will be interesting to see how things turn out. it may be that over time those districts turn out to be less republican or democrat than people think. but certainly not now.

You can generate a politically neutral algorithm to create districts weighting integrity of existing political boundaries against a drive for minimum total perimeters and you can create a fair system. The key is the perimeter value. When that becomes extreme that is the key to recognizing manipulation. Force a map with limited total perimeter and you will do away with the ability to do more than marginal manipulation.

You mean the Trump phones turned out to be a grift? NO ****ING WAY !

I don’t think an R+10 district will elect a Democrat. Regardless, what you presented here is already gerrymandered. What is Metro Detroit? Is it the CSA that includes Ann Arbor and Flint? Is it just the tri counties? The Detroit CSA is 53% of the population. At 5 reps, that’s only 38% of the representation. If you go MSA and only focus on Wayne-Oakland-Macomb, that’s about 43%. Now what do you do with Washtenaw and Genesee Counties? I’m assuming mid Michigan. I’m thinking Washtenaw, Genesse, Ingram and the Tri Cities make it more than 50/50. Where is the Thumb in all this? Mid Michigan? Where does mid end and west begin? What about the north? This still leaves it open to gerrymandering and Detroit is under represented.

It's a fundamental constitutional principle that every voter has equal rights, every vote must be given the same weight. If you *deliberately* manipulate districts to effectively vitiate some votes in favor or others that seems as straightforward a violation of the principle as I can imagine. Certainly one that should transcend any state's constitutional election management options. You could argue that the VRA already set a precedent by playing fast and loose with the principle and I wouldn't disagree with you. Sometimes no good deed goes unpunished.

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Just about any district drawing can be construed as gerrymandering to some people. We also can argue that "independent commissions" can be guilty as well. Let's for example divide Michigan into regions with multiple members, giving candidates x number of seats proportionally. 1) Metro Detroit..5 seats. It's usually a 70/30 split Democrats to Republicans...it would come to a 4-1 Dem/Rep House spit 2) West Michigan (Grand Rapids area) 3 seats, 55-45 Republican/Democrat 2/1 Republican House Advantage... 3)Mid Michigan..(Lansing, Flint, Saginaw). 3 seats..usually a 50-50 Split depending on year. Winning party gets 2 seats Upper Michigan (Everything else) 2 seats. usually a 60/40 split. Depending on margin of victory winning party would get two seats (or split one seat each) Include third parties in the process if they receive a certain percentage of votes...everyone usually gets some representation. Tell me where the gerrymandering is here?

Yeah but at some point you run out of places to gerrymander. I think Texas gerrymander could backfire since they are relying on a realignment from Hispanics. I’m not sure how many more republican districts you squeeze from the Texas suburbs. Same with California, you’re likely to get more districts in the Central Valley.

Land has always outvoted people. We get it. Rule by the rich. We can toil in their underground sugar mines and have half a day off to worship their deity.