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I can’t think of a case where a highly touted prospect got moved or given up on without a chance at the NHL level. I wonder if things would have been different if the Wings weren’t a playoff bubble team. It’s one thing giving Svechnikov and Zadina ice time to fail, burying them with low ice time, but maybe another putting a player you have little confidence in in net.

They can still be a good organization without Harris and Hinch, but canning analytics would be suicide in this era. I don't see that Gehringer is suggesting that though.

I 100% forgot that was on and missed it. Great finish.

For me, it's mostly about his playoff performance. What he did in the regular season means nothing if he can't replicate it in the playoffs. Something else nobody is talking about, his effort issue. In the Cleveland series he had a three game stretch of 2, 4, and 5 rebounds. Your 6'10" 240 pound center had 11 total rebounds over a three game span. That isn't a skill issue, that is an effort issue.

And that goes double for guys who demand the max out of their bodies nine months a year for 20 years running.

I will root for the team to win whether we keep our front office and manager or we broom them instead, but anyone who thinks the Tigers will become perennial winners by dumping Harris/Hinch AND ****canning analytics to go back to the kind of eyeball-based scouting systems in force when we were eleven years old is hepped up on goofballs.

It's hard to ever really know about a manager other than in retrospect after someone takes over the same players and either does better or face plants. Hinch wasn't Harris' hire but I would still guess that Hinch is here as long as Harris. I think the only way Hinch loses his gig would be if Ilitch decided to broom Harris and start over..

Oh no, I 100% agree his market is not $30 million. It's between $20-$25 million. Want more? Cool, bring me an offer sheet giving you more and we'll talk.

to me the dilemma for Duren is how does he improve from here? He was much better this season than last, but mostly by doing better at things he already showed he could do. He's at the point now where the next increment in his game pretty much has to be his shooting, and that's asking to see a skill we really haven't seen at all yet - other than that he has a decent touch at the FT line. A Piston fan could be forgiven for being jaded about the likelihood of a big man's shooting improving.

Me too, but the slow recovery time starts early.

I wish I were as old as he again!

Old people and injuries

Yes, this is true. No maybe about it. Paredes was available here for 30 games and Hinch started him in 20 of them. I will also add that the majority opinion around here in 2021 was that we should dump Isaac Paredes, and I regularly caught a keyboard full of **** on MTS for advocating for him.

You can bet the WH phone logs show a call from Bibi a few minutes before this tweet. I don't doubt this is Netanyahu's lastest gambit to keep the war going.

Gaahh

its the wild card or bust . We are not catching Cleveland. They are a solid team that won't beat themselves with more talent in AAA on the way perhaps even this year. Their manager and pitching coach are as good as they come as well. Stinks but true. Teams don't overcome a 20 game stretch this bad with an inconsistent offense and troubling bullpen.

If Hinch asked for a player do we think Al would have refused? Whatever they should have seen, neither saw it. Roster decisions are co-operative.

Gaahh

Paredes got 72 AB's in 2020 and 100 AB's in 2021 and Tampa gave him 331 in 2022 and he improved immensely and then 492 in 2023 and he was an All Star. So maybe it was Avila and not Hinch who totally misjudged his talent. But I don't see any position player getting better playing for Hinch. To be fair it's mostly talent but work the zone and play all the positions might be a contributing factor to at least consider. Tampa saw talent in Parades - chose a position and gave him consistent AB's. And they sit atop the eastern division this morning. I am not saying dump Hinch but we have had serious slumps three years running and position player development has not been the greatest.

Not that I don't think they are miles better, I doubt how many PA we will get before some number of them are back on the IL. EDIT: I really would have been OK if Gleyber hadn't felt the need to reinforce the point today. Jansen has blown 4 saves out of 13 save opportunities. His walk rate and HR rate are the highest of his career, his GB the lowest. He strikes me as showing signs of being on borrowed time. OTOH, his velo seems be holding - which is in his favor.

So he'll do well vs Boston.