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This is where I part a bit with the conventional wisdom about voter motivation. Just my read based on nothing but my own intuition, but I don't see that anyone who was motivated to get Trump out of office is going to be any less motivated to keep hm out of office. To me the difference is that people are quieter about it so maybe it seems the energy is lower, but I think that is the way it works in life. Once you are really resolved about something, when it becomes one of your bottom lines in life, you don't have to talk about it any more, you don't care about justifying yourselves to others, but you aren't walking away from it either. And in this particular time, people who oppose Trump have largely given up trying to persuade the other side anymore. So for me I don't read the lower apparent energy as necessarily indicating any less resolve to keep Trump out of the WH.

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To the extent that there's a 2016 parallel in this election, there's a tendency for Trump and his supporters to get high off of their own supply. It's low key one of his bigger flaws as a candidate. They are the ones buying all the polls, and the campaign and candidate continually telegraphs that they "don't need" certain voters, etc. Which is part of why I am confident with whatever flaws Biden presents as a candidate, I expect that they will work a lot harder between now and November. The money piece is a factor too - they will have the resources to outwork the Trump campaign as well. It doesn't guarantee victory, but it makes it materially different than 2016 as well...

It's good to fear, complacency kills. But this election is not too much like 2016. Clinton and Trump were unknowns as leaders. More people thought Hillary would be worse than the she probably would have been, and many, many more people had no idea Trump could be anywhere near as bad as he was/is/could be again. Biden has the advantage that he doesn't need to change anyone's mind, he only has to remind people that have already voted for him that they need to do it again. Things can always to wrong (See Tigers, 2022). The Dems should not lose this election unless they can't get out of their own way. That risk is always real enough.

Most people in this forum and elsewhere predicted an easy win for Clinton in 2016 even though the numbers didn't show it. I am also not very confident that Biden will win. I say it's 50/50 right now. I also agree that Biden is unspiring and that his success is based on not being Dump. I fear some people may have forgotten how unbearable Trump is and won't participate this time.

I dont think they will, for what it's worth. If anything, I expect them to work a lot harder than this iteration of the GOP under Trump. If he loses, it won't be because of effort

@Tigeraholic1 is too busy getting his clocks ready for spring ahead day tonight. Or maybe he’s blotto drunk with Tom Gores. I don’t know. Either way, I got you. Let’s use this piece of property on the interwebs to discuss the upcoming athletic event of professional hardwood basketball between Luka Doncic and his Dallas Mavericks against our drunk uncle Tom’s Detroit Pistons. Allez les Pistons!

I love when fans freak out about spring training statistics of someone is headed to Toledo to start the season. It's one of the beautiful things about baseball.

Real "Kim Dynasty" vibes here

The special status of apostles is what makes this most recent strain of post-post-modern New Apostolic Reformation churches the most dangerous. If you are willing to accept that Lara Trump or Donald Trump have divine attribution, well...how are you going to make public policy in a country where anyone else doesn't believe they are divinely inspired? The best you can hope for in that scenario is that your non-divinely inspired faith or non-faith is treated like accepted minority with dhimmi status.

Hell of a drive from Bearman. 18 years old and finished 7th.

It made WAPO, but still cites Katz. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/09/fact-check-katie-britt-sex-trafficking/

Clinton bears some blame in the three swing states because she didn't pay them enough attention... it's been beaten into the ground a lot, but she barely campaigned in Wisconsin in 2016, and spent time in states like Ohio, Georgia, Arizona, etc. which ended up being larger reaches than the campaign apparently believed. That's another area where I don't think 2016 and 2024 compare.... for better or worse, the battleground is pretty much set in 6 states (maybe 7 if you count NC). The two candidates know the field and are unlikely to be taking things for granted or expanding the map unless they absolutely have data to back up any reaches (similar to how Biden pumped resources into Georgia at the end of the 2020 campaign).

You noticed I made it to the Tigers game thread? Then Andrew Chafin talked me into stopping by McDonald’s for breakfast but needed to swing by the L for some Fireball and smokes. We missed breakfast and well the rest is history.

And as the story goes when Jesus was tempted by Satin during his time in the wilderness he turned him away. When Trump was tempted by Putin during his trips to Moscow he kissed his ass.

I don’t find Biden inspiring. But I’m not sure I’m looking for inspiration right now, if it’s a choice between old and uninspiring vs old and dangerously senile, it’s an easy choice for me to make. Unfortunately that’s the binary choice that we will have. As far as forgetting how unbearable Trump can be, I’m not sure about that. I suppose he’s fallen a bit more to the back pages the last few years as opposed to when he was president. But it’s not like he’s been quietly golfing and tending to charities since he tried to overthrow the government.

To be clear, I don’t think Lara or anyone in the MAGAverse cares about blasphemy.

stat of the day from reviewing Northrups BR page: In 1968 a 770 OPS was good for a 129 OPS+

I think we're all largely on the same page here, just saying it in different terms. I have said in this thread and others, that I think they draft for talent and culture fit, but that the culture has to fit in order for the talent to be considered. I've used Jalen Carter as a recent example of. If a guy like Carter is supremely talented and checks that box, but doesn't check the culture fit box, they will pass on him every time. The player they are looking to draft has to have a coachable attitude and be willing to learn from the staff. They have to love/respect/value football as much as they do. Otherwise, they're not going to get drafted, regardless of talent level. Players like an Antonio Brown, Chase Young, Jalen Carter, Vontez Burfict, etc. would never get drafted by this organization, as much as we the fan may want a guy like that because they simply don't fit the culture.