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I don’t think Ben helps the cause.

I think the keys here are the DH only and the value that gets placed on him. Probably more the latter than the former as the Tigers should consider any deal where they think they get more (future and/or current) talent in place of (current) talent.

Harris managed to trade away Jimenez and Soto, solo inning artists, for potential everyday players. I don’t know if Carpenter gets traded. But you never who values what and for how much.

Sure, Carpenter’s bat and cost are assets. At the same time, there are quite a few LHH OFs in or close to Detroit. Obviously Greene is the most well rounded of the bunch and that’s the guy to build around. All others have some flaw or another.

A winter in Mackinac Island or Put-In-Bay or Petee Island (Lake Erie) would be pretty interesting. Did it freeze around Mackinac at all this winter? I would imagine there’s a fair amount of snowmobile/ATV traffic from island to mainland during the heart of a normal winter.

In fairness to Baddoo’s defense, he had another really good play in Kansas City earlier this week and nearly had another one last night. In fact, he had the ball in his glove, was reaching with the throwing hand to cover it up, but I think instincts got the better of it and his left hand shot out to brace for the dive. Tough play, hell of an effort, it just kicked off of the heel of the glove. He has the speed that he should have the range. Throwing is an obvious problem and might always be. My untrained eye thinks the non throwing part of the defense is inconsistency. I don’t think the effort can be faulted. Everyone has different skill sets and degrees to which they have those and how much they can improve them.

It'd be interesting to know what kind of return Carpenter would yield. The contradictory offense & defense can be tolerated for one DH type, but the Tigers have Malloy waiting in the wings and Baddoo on the team. He's a free agent after 2028 shortly after turning 31 years old. So he is controlled through the majority of his prime seasons. It'd be tough to part with one of the better offensive players from a wholly inept offense this season, but it might make sense to do so.

That seemed curious to me. Maybe its my bias, and fruit TV mentioned tagging McKinstry's finger on the swipe, but I'm not sure that he was tagged in time. I suppose they figured it was questionable enough and too early in the game to lose a challenge.

The inability to convert in the 2nd then the subsequent two runs allowed in the 3rd really sunk last night. OK, that's done and in the books. Take the Saturday and Sunday games and yank the series from them.

The relief pitching seems to have done an about face from the previous regimes. But you might be right as far as starting pitching is concerned. I may have been thinking more about the relief pitching.

Everything had never been done until it was finally done the first time.

I agree that this is the priority. The team is below .500 and only 5 games out, but the emphasis should be losing record. The only reason playoffs are a consideration is that the division is rotten. I agree that threading the needle on accomplishing that and dealing to compete now is an awfully tough and unlikely task. The only trade that I can think of that might be similar is dealing away Granderson and JacksonE for Schezer, JacksonA, Coke, and Schlereth. But that deal isn't exactly comparable because Granderson and JacksonE were still under contract while the players that the Tigers need to trade are going to be free agents. But I'm interested to see what Harris does. I expect Rodriguez and Lorenzen to be traded. The return has to include youth. But can he accomplish anything else without compromising the farm system? I would guesstimate the odds of threading the needle are lower than the playoff odds.

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Its going to be somewhat of an evaluation difference between the participating clubs and/or a position player is blocked on the other team's depth chart. I know that really narrows the scope of who the Tigers could deal with from a return standpoint. Who knows, it might not be anything more than a remote possibility. And to splice it even more, that might be relevant more so to Rodriguez who has more playoff experience than Lorenzen. Sure, in either event its going to be a rental pitcher. But will a team place a premium on Rodriguez being a bit more of a known quantity and having playoff experience? Maybe not, but maybe a GM/owner decides its worth a little extra something.

I wonder what the baseball insider perception of Tiger pitching is, specifically related to development and deployment at the higher levels. It ranks pretty well on here, but we're biased.

He's dingled up, isn't he?

The cameraman getting the facial close up at the end is a nice touch.

Indeed.

I think another way to look at it is what is the division winner win total and what would it take for the Tigers to surpass it? Fangraphs has Minnesota at 83.5 wins. Detroit is 44-52. 84 wins would require finishing out at 40-26, a .606 winning percentage. Is it possible for the Tigers to upgrade themselves enough to that kind of team? Kind of seems doubtful to me. Can they "buy" controllable players that could impact this season without compromising the farm system? I think it'd be quite the balancing act to do. The lineup is just awful, so any kind of move would seem to improve it at a few different positions. Will the pitching backfill for guys traded be sufficient enough as well? Seems a daunting task.

Exactly. Everyone should be available for the right price. Its just the price for a players are going to be much more expensive than other players.

Why?

Well, see, there's that qualifier. It ain't exactly a good farm system to deal from, is it? That aside, I agree with you, the Tigers (or any team) don't need to be completely on one side of the aisle or the other. I just think the focus will be on trading Rodriguez and Lorenzen for prospects. And maybe they can move Cisnero and Shreve, too.

Candelario’s season is better than the Tigers have at their disposal for 3B. They could look to upgrade at 2B, OF, and C as well. I doubt that Harris buys, and if he does, it’s going to be a tough needle to thread while simultaneously selling. They’re in an odd spot where they are theoretically in a division race and that’s it. There’s no chance to fall back on a wild card spot. And there’s also the fact that they themselves have been a losing record team all season long.

I wonder what Washington would want for Candelario? Yes, I’m serious.

It would almost certainly have to involve trading the pitching rotation duo for a combination of major league ready rotation arms and major league ready bats. A buy & sell. Or perhaps they backfill the arms by floating prospects like Malloy or MeadowsP for a starting pitcher?