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  1. 1984Echoes
    Or pushed to the bench.
  2. 1984Echoes
    I'm going to concur with NYLion. These guys are just... young. Including Wiseman. I don't feel anything crucial here... except patience.
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    How much criticism does Weaver get for not correctly identifying Haliburton versus Killian? But also... how many in here were higher on Haliburton versus Killian? I don't remember... I think I was higher on Hali but I wasn't vocal about it at all. It was probably marginal at best... and at that point for me it was "trust in Weaver" anyways.
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    That's what I want for dinner! Shrimp & Eggplant in Garlic sauce, an order of fried pork dumplings and... hmmm... an egg roll or a shrimp roll...? Hmmm....
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    I see you hedged on that too because you used both "has" more potential than Duren as well as "had?" more potential than Duren.
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    I hedged on that because of the past few years... And on the defensive end, I'm not so certain about that. On O, yes... but big picture... he's got a lot to prove... and a long ways to improve. Room for growth... but the growth curve is steep for him.
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    Which... MIGHT be cured with playing time. Since it was close to zero with GS... how was he supposed to improve? The Pistons can have him come off the bench and live with all his mistakes while they try to coach him up. No guarantee it works but... Detroit's in a great spot to give him the chance/ playing time to try and get better.
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    Just a guess...
  9. 1984Echoes
    Wiseman's upside is higher than Bagley's or Stew's, that's why. He's more athletic, and a much higher offensive threat. Prediction: Wiseman becomes the best 3-point shooter of these 4 bigs, and averages 35% (not this year and maybe not next year... but starting from age 23 through 33-ish...). His floor time will be dependent on his defense though. Which apparently sucks bigly. But I think he becomes a better defender than Bagley (not hard), and gets up to a tad below Duren (what Duren will become). Not elite... but more like a Turner in that he's a shot-blocker but not a great one-on-one defender.
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    Brilliant.
  11. 1984Echoes
    Yeah, whatever.
  12. 1984Echoes
    No... I think the opposite will be decided by the market... That he ends up with the Lions.
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    So do we want one of the Thompson brothers who are uber athletic (if we fall in the 3 to 5 range), look like hound dogs on defense... but aren't great jump-shooters... Or Miller, who can shoot the lights out (it looks like from anywhere although I haven't checked shot charts) but is only average athletic and is currently questionable on defense (not certain how much/ if that could improve)...?
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    I don't think Jamaal will get huge offers based specifically on the issues mentioned above. I think he will be completely affordable/ available to the Lions for a 2 or 3-year contract.
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    Or he knows that he can't get the best coach out there to get us wins in the playoffs as long as we are still a crappy team. Once they make some strides into the playoffs, maybe he can get us a superb coach that gets us farther in the playoffs than Casey ever could...
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    The only point I would disagree with is this one, I think even if we fall to 3-4-5 that there are 3 significant players who have skill-sets that we are missing and therefore also give us a huge boost. I don't want to agree that we'll struggle next year. Any of the top 5 players in this draft help this team immensely.
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    The other issue is he's been injured so much. We hope he can get past all the injuries and get onto the floor enough to develop properly...
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    Just a WAG here.... But guessing that Weaver believes Wiseman can turn into a Myles Turner 2.0? If he does that/ is capable of doing that... I'm on board.
  19. 1984Echoes
    Stew and Bagley both need to be pushed permanently to PF.
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    No, I don't think so. It will be Swift or a draft pick (if it's top 3 rounds); just like it should have been in 2022. I don't think they intended Williams to be a feature back in this offense in 2022... he just got pushed into it. But he wasn't ideal. And I don't believe they count on it, in that way, in 2023. It will be Jamaal/ Swift as a thunder & lightning combo again, as it should be. No feature back. So draft-wise, I want another back that can step in as a #1A or 1B with Jamaal, if/ when Swift goes down again. Not to repeat myself but, I don't want a Riddick-type until we have a healthy enough situation at the top where we can start looking at unique weapons like a Riddick...
  21. 1984Echoes
    So Bey was #3?
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    So I'm going to switch this around... I am... 99% Certain that 1 of Bey/ Bojan/ Burks will be traded and only 50/50 that Noel will get traded... I just wanted to get that right....
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    I'm assuming on the court... ???????? They were desperate for some rebounding...?
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    Just asking... Because I would have no idea... Was there some kind of issue between Bey/ Casey/ management? Could that be the reason they just dumped him? Or... one other reason I heard floating around: Did they make a decision on who they were interested in extending and what their budget was going to be? And already made a decision on Bey...? Or Bey's agent had given signals of an Ask that the Pistons had no interest in meeting? Just trying to find any kind of logic here, aside from on-the-court value. It HAS to be something else... right?
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    I don't think a Quintin Johnson at 18 is required to replace Chark. I'm looking more at a Jonathon Mingo at #81 or a Trey Palmer at #169.
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