Archie

Whitmer recently signed a bill regarding minors charged as adults and sentencing guidelines for them. I don't know if or how it will affect this case. Maybe it won't.

I think avoiding the media is nearly impossible. When you are in their position I don't think they are getting much help from anyone. The last big case was the Landry case in Florida. The media followed the parents of the boy all the time, flew drones over their home and used their neighbor's property to get closer. A lot of the media act more like activists than journalists in these situations and I don't blame people for trying to avoid them. I don't think any of us have sympathy for the parents but think about the position they are in. Their child will likely spend decades in prison being Bubba's girlfriend and he will never live a normal life. They will go broke paying for attorneys and if they have any money left there will be civil suits from the victims. Now they face years of jail time for themselves. Even if they don't it will be hard for them to get jobs or be out in public. They will have to relocate and the stigma will follow them where ever they go. Their life is crap and their future isn't any better.

From the beginning the Prosecutor has been using the media for her benefit. Its common for people with charges pending to be allowed to turn themselves in if if its set up with their lawyer and prosecutor. It happens all the time and isn't reported in the media. It sounds like the lack of communication is on the prosecutor. Both the defense attorneys and the OCSD have stated this. Then it was blown out of proportion with the BOLO that was publicly communicated like the parents were public enemy number one. The parents are more of a danger to themselves than anyone else at this point. It doesn't really matter at this point now they are in jail. Their bail has been set extremely high and the defense might be able to get it lowered. I expect the trial for the kid will be easy to prosecute and the only question is how long of a sentence he could get based on his age. Mental illness could be a defense since he admitted to "hearing voices" before the shooting. The trial for the parents will be much more interesting and I think the Prosecutor will have trouble making a case. Time will tell.

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How a child is raise is so important in their lives and their future success. Sounds like you are giving him a good family to give him the opportunity he needs. I think the prosecutor is certainly using the media for her personal benefit. I know the parents need to answer the charges but having BOLO broadcast everywhere is over the top in my opinion. I think she has an uphill battle to convict the parents on anything no matter how deserving it may be.

Brooks had a bit of history and anyone in that office with a lick of common sense would have know he was a danger in some capacity. Nobody thought he would drive through a parade but he was a danger with his record and what he was charged with.

If that's what it takes to get violent offenders off the streets then its what we have to do. A lot of people that want to give these free passes haven't been victims. Its no wonder we have so many armed citizens and guns in this country. There is a reason why we have to protect ourselves.

I don't think either been convicted of a felony or violent crime such as domestic violence. The worst is a DUI, writing bad checks and child support problems. None of that would disqualify a person from purchasing a firearm in Michigan. When you buy a firearm in Michigan you have to fill out a questionnaire and then that information is run through the background check.

You should take a look at what's happening today. New York and California have no bail rules. Other places have low bail but this mostly follows liberal prosecutors and judges. These judges are the ones giving light sentences for violent crimes. Look what happened to Darrell Brooks in WI after he was out on $1000 bail. That's not the only case. One complaint is we are running out of prison space. If that's the case they should be building a lot more. Our population is growing daily.

I'm not disagreeing with background checks but there needs to be some changes made so they work better. When myself or anyone goes to buy a gun most times that check takes about 15 minutes but it can take days depending on the how well staffed they are on the government end. I don't know what they want to do to expand them. It may be a good plan and maybe not. No matter what it wouldn't have stopped the kid from getting the gun because the father was the legal purchaser. There are much bigger issues in the criminal justice system that needs to be looked at. One of the big ones is proper sentencing, bail reform and the no bail guidelines in NY and other places. They let violent offenders walk around free because they don't want to be offensive to certain people. Other are given light sentences. For example the two girls who killed the Uber driver in a carjacking in Washington DC. They are in Juvenile Detention until they are rehabilited or until they are 21 years old at the latest. They should be spending a lot of time in prison. You like to blame things on the GOP but its the democrats that are letting these criminals walk free and continue to commit violent crimes.

Then at the end of WW2 or right after the Soviets were a biggest threat. Iran and China should be our biggest concern right now especially when (not if) Iran gets a nuclear weapon.

Russia is a threat but I believe China is a much bigger threat. They are building a massive military and arsenal. They aren't afraid to be the aggressor and they do what they want no matter what anyone else things. They play a huge role in our economy and many high powered political figures are too chummy or in bed with them.

Kind of like you partisan rhetoric! 😁

But that's not helping my investments today.

I wouldn't be surprised if they turn themselves in with their lawyer. I doubt they are actually running because everyone gets caught eventually. Nothing they have done yet has been smart so maybe they are.

That's what I thought too. Who knows why? The kid would have still been in trouble but nothing like he is now.

I haven't heard this. What possible charges could they face? From what I understand so far is that when the school admin met with the parents and the kid, it was the day of the shooting. The kid had the gun in his bag or locker at that time. Its easy to look back and say they should have searched the kid. I assume the parents didn't let on they bought the gun a few days earlier. On a radio show I was listening to earlier today, the mom sent the kid a text saying Don't do it. They were thinking that after the meeting she went home and looked for the gun and couldn't find it.

That will all depend on what the parent(s) said and what they filled out on the paperwork. If the gun shop knew they were purchasing for the kid its possible the shop would have issues and could lose their FFL.

This is an absolutely stupid thing to say and its so far from the truth.

Winning the WS would be huge but for me its not the end all. The last two times they were in the WS has been pretty disappointing. I think they won one game in 2006 and were swept in 2012. I look forward to a competitive season where they are in contention for the post season. The last few years have been painful when the team they put on the field wouldn't of had a chance to win the Little League WS.

I voted for "on time" but that's optimistic that both sides realize they are shooting themselves in the foot if it doesn't. They need to lock themselves in a room and not come out without a deal. I think the life of the sport depends on it. Fans won't take it well if the season doesn't start on time and they won't all come back when it does.

In other shooting news, Alec Baldwin now claims he didn't pull the trigger. I think his lawyers have gotten to him. A gun won't fire on its own and he was holding it.

There might be sentencing guidelines in Michigan that would require them to only give the kid so much time if convicted. I think I remember some sentences being changed for people convicted as a minor even if charged as an adult.

The kids will most likely spend a good portion of his life behind bars. The bigger question is will one or both of his parents share the same fate? Even if convicted, I doubt the parents would get more than a few years but it still destroys their life. Their life is already destroyed at this point but it doesn't make up for the lost lives.

It looks bad, there's no disagreement on that. I want to know more before I condemn someone like this. Its more than political banter of throwing accusations over something. RIttenhouse looked bad too until we saw the entire video.