Tenacious D

Probably. Just want them to be at least capable wherever they are playing. I suspect he’ll spend more time at 3B, given the organizational need.

Was thinking more along the lines of his defense, once they settle on a position for him.

A lot of talk, understandably, about sourcing player upgrades through trades and free agency. I’m also interested, though, in what Harris is going to implement to improve player development in both the minors and big league level. When you think of guys like Santana, Pacheco, Keith, Campos, Meadows, etc., can we see some of them take big strides and unlock some of their potential? Will he be making outside hires to address this?

This is where we should take on a bad contract to get a better player and/or have to give up less in a deal.

I'm encouraged to hear Harris say he's open to trading prospects--this is what a team in our situation should be looking at to accelerate our road to respectability. The period where we were dealing veterans went poorly--while that could be blamed on Avila, I think the rule that the team who gets the best player almost always wins the trade is valid. Given the fragility of young pitchers, I'd rather we look to move guys like Madden and Flores to try and get some lineup mainstays (i.e, the aforementioned Danny Jansen). Heck, even Jobe in the right deal. Instead of receiving Daz Cameron's and Isaac Paredes', let's move our equivalents to get players with a track record.

hate to see Daz go, but it was the right call. guy needs a fresh start. I suppose more will go--we need to protect some guys, as well as save room for the Rule 5, free agent signings, etc...

what else is he going to say? I think secretly, the Tigers are hoping that Miggy spends a considerable amount of time on the DL/bench next season. The only thing he costs us right now is a 40-man spot, which sucks, but isn't worth alienating one of our best players ever. We need to move on from any Miggy consternation--it is what it is, and will be over this time next year.

as much as I'd like to see us move on from Baez at SS, it probably makes sense to keep him there for one more year. Next season will be about making incremental improvement, not competing for a playoff spot. Schoop is already signed and hopefully can have his bat bounce back closer to his career norms. He'll have zero trade value, nor part of our long-term plan, but it would be great if he can be a contributor to enjoyable baseball in 2023. I like the idea of picking up a LH 1B, who can also fill in at DH and serve as a backup plan if Tork needs more time at Toledo (which certainly appears to be the case right now). How about looking at Mitch Haniger for LF? (assumes Greene in CF and Meadows in RF). Bats RH and the Mariners didn't offer him a QO, so he's a free agent with no strings. Could be a bounce-back candidate after an injury-riddled season. Has upside if he can stay healthy.

couple of infielders in the system who bat left: Keith, Jung and Seretti. A couple of years away, but might factor into how they solve getting a LH bat for the infield over the next season or two.

agree that is typical, but since Turnbull wasn't rushed back, similar to JV, will that help expedite his return to form? Spencer basically sat out a full year and a half, so hopefully his offseason program will help.

where's Phil Mankowski when you need him?

My fan vote would be: The Bird, Tram, Carlos Guillen and Ian Kinsler. (with apologies to Richie Hebner, Champ Summers and Rusty Staub).

Good enough for me.

Excited to see a healthy Turnbull come back. He was pitching very well before his injury.

Things I don’t care about: the political leanings of professional sports executives.

The LaRussa/Baines thing makes me even more pissed off. Might have been Lou’s best shot.

Feels like an appropriate place for this—Whitaker again snubbed for the HOF—didn’t even make it on the veterans ballot: Lou Whitaker snubbed by Hall of Fame again; Detroit Tigers great left off vet ballot https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2022/11/07/tigers-lou-whitaker-snubbed-by-baseball-hall-of-fame-vet-ballot/69627773007/

I didn’t realize our pitchers had drinking/substance abuse issues? Now, what about our hitters?

Was a joke. Not a great one, apparently.

Where is Barnhart on that list?!? Such disrespect

There’s Detroit vs the suburbs. Most professional athletes live In Birmingham, Grosse Pointe, Bloomfield Hills and all are great places to live.

Isn’t that what I said?

ESPN’s power rankings for next season.

I think all of this debate has been about how attractive Detroit is as a free agent destination. I would argue the decision for a player is less about recent W-L record, because that can change and I think the Tigers front office changes demonstrate that the organization is committed to winning. The bigger issue are perceptions around Detroit itself. From the outside looking in, Detroit, on the surface, is probably not an appealing destination. Associations with crime, bankrupt city, automotive industry, cold climate, etc... might be difficult for players, and as important, their spouses/significant others. Of course, those of us who live here realize that there is a significant gap between perceptions and reality, and that has been proven as most players who come here, don't want to leave (Miggy, JV, V-Mart, JD Martinez, etc...). At the end of the day, we might miss out on a player or two that we're interested in, but I don't see us as being at a big disadvantage. I do think we're likely in an overpay situation (either in dollars/years), but it's probably always been that way for prospective free agents, who are in demand and have choices.

For me, three are pretty cut and dry: Cobb, Kaline and Greenberg. The last is a bit trickier, with Gehringer, Trammell and Cabrera in the mix. I’m going with Trammell over Cabrera—played his entire career with the Tigers, won a WS, HOF’er, and a sentimental pick as my all-time favorite Tiger. My final: Cobb Kaline Greenberg Trammell