SoCalTiger

That’s a good thing no ?

Nice to see Carpenter do well but both hits were against just promoted pitchers and not MLB regulars. I think the home run on the high fastball is a swing and miss against most pitchers in the majors like we have seen previously. But it is progress so thats good.

Per "MLB Trade Rumors " . Same Doctor Skubal is seeing today and likely the same result...:( The Dodgers announced Monday that right-hander Walker Buehler will undergo season-ending surgery on his right elbow on Aug. 23. He’s been out since June 10 after being diagnosed with a Grade 2 flexor strain. Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic tweets that Buehler’s recent MRIs weren’t conclusive enough to determine the extent of the damage in his elbow, but Dr. Neal ElAttrache saw enough to recommend surgery.

The thought occurred to me, probably later than everyone else on the board, that super hyped prospects are at their highest value before being promoted to the big leagues where they might struggle. Tork is a case in point. If we wanted to we probably could have had Soto for Tork and Greene before calling them up as an example. Now Tork's value is greatly marginalized. I wonder if all GM's consider this before calling them up and it seems DD made a career of trading the hype. I think the Yankees used to do that also. So maybe the new GM should trade Dingler, Flores and Jobe for a some young proven hitters as the first step of the rebound. Kind of the opposite of trading proven vets for more lotto picks. it's less years of control but quicker path to respectability and combined with a Tork/ Greene ascension and pitchers healing we might have something.

All soon to be swirling down the sink when a new GM arrives.

hate to see Miggy reduced to a carnival attraction.

Miggy looks broken and I still believe he will retire with full pay. He is a baseball player that can no longer perform and I don't think he wants to be a carnival attraction for the fans. This reality will set in and the new GM will, hopefully and delicately, provide a narrative that allows him to retire with dignity.

Two catchable balls fall in the outfield and we're toast. Badoo and Willie. It's been nice knowing you.

Assembling our 2024 pitching staff at a surgery center near you.

Yes they were to the tune of # 2 in wins during the decade. MLB : Regular season wins in the 1980's World Yrs in Series World Yrs in Franchise Wins Series Playoffs W L New York Yankees 0 1 2 854 708 Detroit Tigers 1 1 2 839 727 Kansas City Royals 1 2 4 826 734 Los Angeles Dodgers 2 2 4 825 741 St. Louis Cardinals 1 3 3 825 734 Boston Red Sox 0 1 2 821 742 Houston Astros 0 0 3 819 750 Toronto Blue Jays 0 0 2 817 746 New York Mets 1 1 2 816 743 Washington Nationals 0 0 1 811 752 Milwaukee Brewers 0 1 2 804 760 Oakland Athletics 1 2 3 803 764 Baltimore Orioles 1 1 1 800 761 Los Angeles Angels 0 0 2 783 783 Philadelphia Phillies 1 2 3 783 780 Cincinnati Reds 0 0 0 781 783 San Francisco Giants 0 1 2 773 795 San Diego Padres 0 1 1 762 805 Chicago White Sox 0 0 1 758 802 Chicago Cubs 0 0 2 735 821 Minnesota Twins 1 1 1 733 833 Pittsburgh Pirates 0 0 0 732 825 Texas Rangers 0 0 0 720 839 Atlanta Braves 0 0 1 712 845 Cleveland Indians 0 0 0 710 849 Seattle Mariners 0 0 0 673 893

This is why he needs to retire. It’s a common perception across all baseball fans and Miggy needs to let his pride take over if Chris will cash him out whole.

Let’s say we give Carpenter more than two games despite the early eye sore.

Seems he is doing better but it could just be another year of experience. Thanks for the update.

BTW is the News and Free Press sports page off line ? Did Al crash it ?

I didn't think Chris had it in him but I am glad that he did. I think he will go outside the organization and "go big". I suppose when Miggy said about his possible retirement he had to "talk to the GM" and not "talk to Al" that the cast had been struck. Pray he hires the right person.

I couldn’t agree more. Time for a heart to heart talk. He is only eroding his legacy. Take a bow and call it a day. All the handicap parking spaces are full.

Does anyone know how the 3rd baseman we traded to Cincinnati for Barnhart is doing? I think we drafted him in the second round and he was bad. Curious if he is still bad or better in the Reds system.

What a mess. Maybe a good carpenter can fix it.

Wow its worse than I thought and the last team, Baltimore, is in the wild card hunt this year. We are the worse team in Baseball since 2017 so asking the fans for more time is just wrong.

Agree to go outside the organization for a new GM but if they do stay in house then Hinch is the only choice since he had the less time in Detroit and therefore closest to an external hire. Chadd should be swept out also. Anyone close to Al. Clean sweep.

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True but the Detroit Baseball Club has always had professional scouts also and how have they done lately ?

I do not have any skill as a talent evaluates apart from watching baseball for 55 years. Keeps me young 🙂. But I do see trends around the league and what I notice is many teams that draft lower than us continually produce MLB regular contributors and stars but since the Tram-Lou-etc era we do not. i hope 84 is right about this group. It’s why we watch and the optimism is needed at this juncture because the varsity team looks dreadful. At the same time Micros certified knowledge serves to minimize angst. Both of which combine to bring me to my aged old wish. Just give us a competitive team year in and year out so most of the summer we are “in the hunt”. Maybe no trophies but a pulse daily. A reason to watch. These past seven years have been inexcusable to me and I hope Chris Illitch and Al Avila are embarrassed and ashamed. They wouldn’t even dare mention their own names during yesterday’s Lou ceremony. What does that say? It says get the F out of town you bumbling fools and Disgenuous caretakers of our treasured institution. You are frauds and an insult to the spirit of the game.

It’s funny that Miggy represented Tiger Baseball excellence for so long and now he is associated with Tiger ineptness. It just “feels” that he needs to retire before we can truly have a fresh start. I will be disappointed if he tries to play in 2023. It’s embarrassing at this point.

Barnhart catching Garcia struggling swings at the first pitch to help Bryan rest.