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A) I wouldn't be happy with DeJong. I've long said he sucked and you can see it on like page 2 of this thread. B) It is a large contract. WHen you're paying someone 2/15 for production you can get for 500K, it is large. C) Your statement above is false. 100 percent false. He can't hit. The numbers back it up. He hitting has dropped dramatically over five years. It's not just a blip it's a long-standing pattern just like Dontrelle Willis was. You're just going on him based on his name, which is the exact problem I'm talking about. It would be knee jerk to just go trade for DeJong because you're lik s*** I missed on all the free agents let's trade for this bad player because we've all heard of him and I'm fearful that a rookie would be bad at this position. Again, I'm all for upgrading the position, its desperately needed. Paul DeJong isn't an upgrade.

Again, as I said earlier, Krieder is certainty better than rolling a player i know is bad out there. At least Krieder has some upside. All he has to do is play OK defense and hit above .200 with a .700 OPS to be better than Dejong. It's not a crazy bar to clear. (and this isn't to say they should ignore the shortstop position, just don't fill it with a guy who was good his rookie year and has been near-junk the rest just because you've heard of him and your afraid how a rookie would preform)

Its $6 million and $9 million and then a $3 million buyout, first off. Second, its not a matter of the money amount its about paying that money for a bad player. That makes it a large contract. Paying a ton for little production. That's foolish. Why pay money to a bad player cause you view him as "cheap." Krieder can probably do what DeJong does and Krieder will cost $500K a year.

Kreider is a better option than DeJong, who has trended down for five straight years now and has a large contract. At least krieder has upside. It would be gross negligence to trade for a player who isn't that great just as some knee jerk reaction.

They literally just spent $80 million on a pitcher and $10 million on a catcher.

That's why it was silly when people kept proposing like 5 year 125 million deals for some of these guys.

Well these did sign on of the top pitchers on teh market for $80 million

No, its not reallocating. One costs you absolutely nothing but money. The other costs you money and talent at a position you don't even know you are set with/the one set up for injuries for "another SS" who could be nothing but a bust.

What sense does that make. Weaken your one decent area to find a shortstop who might be a complete bust when there are 9 available and you know what they are capable of and the only cost is money.

What? That's just silly.

It's not a video game. Those guys aren't taking these short little deals that are crazy team friendly.

why, they have no shortstops. Why go for a short term answer to have this problem in a year or two?

The risk is fairly low. Unless Correra is hurt for 80 percent of it. He'd easily make back what he gave up at a contract at 30. Let's say he signs a sraight 300/10 at 30 AAV right now. He's gonna get at least 230 on another 10 at 30.

Teams also aren't stupid. They know talent wise, sure Correra is better than Lindor. But, Lindor played in 150 games every year. Corerra can't say that. That will hurt a bit.

In my defense I'm on the train so we got a bit of a delay in internet availability

Tigers do love Carlos Correa but have heard from Tigers people who insist they will not spend $300M on any one player due to multiple needs. They are considering Javier Baez and Marcus Semien (and possibly Trevor Story though that’s unconfirmed), who won’t command that figure. --Jon heyman 7 minutes ago on the Twitter gram

None. Guardians was picked because all they had to do was change like 2 letters and put the little do hickey to make a g instead of a c on the stand alone logo

I'd be suprised. Most people try to avoid making announcements during thanksgiving week cause few people are paying attention to news. In this case, its often hunting week. If you are holding the PC to drive up support, i.e. season tickets, but people are out doing other things, the likley hood of them being acitng on emotion dwindles.

Most times money on hand is better than deferred.

They changed it a couple years ago because it used to be like till the winter meetings which was stupid too long. Normally there isn't this much action this early, cause you can wait a week. But, I think some guys are jumping at deals cause of the CBA taking their signing bonus and going "at least I got that" right now.

You haven't talked to many yakees fans have you. They'd give up Torres for a bag of balls at this point.

I think some are trying to get theirs before the CBA lockdown. At least I got that. Many of the guys who signed weren't likely to get more or less by waiting.

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