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Just to be clear dj Moores cap hit is 20 million then 16 and 16. No reason to worry about paying him And the Bears have 80 million in cap space still after the trade. They will be able to sign some plug and play guys in free agency Might have wanted to research your first half a bit better

Probably did the feelers and didn't think it would get better, now you can set up your scouting and free agency knowing the plan. Is holding out another three weeks really gonna push the colts to give up four first rounders for a non-luck type draft?

They've been awful for a lot of years and tried to tank this year and screwed it up. At some point you have to start building

I would say yes. They'll sign an rb draft an olineman and load up on defense.

Seems reasonable to me. Moore is like a first round pick so he gets them help immediately to go along with 9 and still like 80 million in cap. Plus no wr is as good as him.

what is this 1984?

So were gonna take a guy with a track record of hitting at every level and replace him with a guy who was a weaker hitter at every level? People really need to cool it on Tork. We'll see what he does, but let's not panic and let's not replace him with light hitters.

Low chance. He's now the best FA WR on the market. Someone will pay him.

Oh God comisky in Chicago, he comes another two pages on chicago stadium issues

cause of the tax incentives/breaks

Not so sure of that. Last thing we needed was more spoiled millennial in tiny apartments driving up the price of everything

I really wish you'd stop citing future cap obligations. Those are just silly. I mean in year 2025 the bears have 505 million in cap space and 28 teams have more than 100 million. The Lions seem better than most and ranked 9th but it's not some mastery of the system, every team outside of the saints has a bazillion dollars on cap space in future years

I actually understand what Motown is arguing but he is off a bit Even if you have said rookie on a contract, in year 3 he isn't signing for full free agent value. He wouldn't have played or shown what you can do so nobody is giving him 40 million. And not many guys are extended then. If he was the cap hit would be backloaded like all contracts. So there still would be savings by drafting one and letting goff go. Goff best case one Year 1 of just Goff with a likely restructure 13 million Year 1 of goff and rookie Goff 30 million + rookie 5 million Next savings of -23 million Year 2 of just goff 28 million Year 2 of goff cap hit because hes cut and rookie 15 million Net savings of 13 million Year 3 of rookie 15 million (Net savings of 25 million cause goffs extension would be about 40 million for arguments sake by then) So while it wouldn't help the cap this year, per se. It would in the long term. And the idea behind this year's saving assumes one thing and forgets another. Someone is getting that rookie cap hit no matter what. And it assumes goff would even agree to a restructure.

About may

It's only $13 million this year

Ok and that's fine But that's different saying "at 23 your either a MLBer or not" which does seems like an "checklist list/age test" You literally said a player ar 23 is an mlb or not. But that would leave guys lie dl hall off who is a top pitching prospect but 24. Not to mention guys like Chapman who made his debut at 24 and was just fine.

Good God we've become so warped in thinking when guys should be ready. 22 is a senior in college for most people

Except it's silly to compare qb to any other position via draft round. The numbers have borne it out and even you link says it round 1 qb and high or you are just hoping to get lucky. It's nearly impossible to win without a pro bowl qb where as you can win a lot of games with just a service free safety in round 2.

The problem is the sample. Take Drew Brees for example. He made 13 Pro Bowlers. He was drafted in round 2 and accounts for the large percentage take him out of the equation and what happens? The number shifts dramatically. Getting a hof level player messes with the number. To be accurate with thing like this you almost always need to french judge it (Edit to add not to mention pro bowl has lost a lot of luster. Heck a guy who had 4 td made this years)

Plus you can't use him in those milk mustache ads

Haven't we heard the same thing a few times over the last several seasons?

Riley Greene ranked No. 7 on Jim Bowen's breakout candidate list. So that's nice.

Wow talk about not accurate at all. I went "ape shit" because you said we could AFFORD big players. That is why. Then you change an said we wouldn't be big players. Those are two totally different concepts. I said you didn't understand how contracts work because you don't. You in your argument the Lions couldn't AFFORD players used examples of Bradberry making $15 million a year. that is AAV not cap hit, different concept which you don't understand. I used Flowers as an example to show how AAV and cap hit isn't the same. In year one (which is what the Lions would be signing any big player for this offseason) it was dramatically less than his AAV. I never once said we should focus on AAV, never not once. You can link it. Just keep making stuff up, you were wrong in your inital post, wrong in your summary of it. And have shown you don't have a grasp of the siutation.

apparently our training room sucks and we make guys eat too many coney dogs