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He's collecting players with a lot of natural talent. Hayes was an upside pick, Bey was known as a steal at the time, Stewart is what he is, Cade was the BPA, Ivey was arguably the best pure talent in the draft with Duren not far behind, Ausar again with big upside, he traded I don't know how many times for former high 1st round picks that had a lot of upside hoping that something clicks. That's all he's done is collect 1sts and back on talent. He doesn't seem to care about fit, need, supplying these players with the legit vets. He's just throwing a bunch of talent against the wall hoping that it sticks. Again though, you can't win in this league without a star or capable vets (legit vets like FVV in Houston as one example) and the Pistons don't have that so essentially I agree with you but what I'm saying is that Weaver has no idea how to build a team at least thus far.

Because it's all young guys and none of them are franchise players. Weaver knows exactly what he's doing. He's just collecting a bunch of young talent, regardless of fit, and praying that it sticks. The design is to tank another year and pray that he finds a true #1 player. It's The Process Part Deux

Exactly right. It's just a collection of talented players either highly drafted by the Pistons or highly drafted by another organization. The pieces don't fit and there's no alpha in the group so what you get is a bunch of young guys who have no idea how to play winning basketball and nobody that can carry the team and win games on his own when the others aren't playing well. "The Process" of a complete teardown rebuild and just throwing a bunch of young guys together hoping it sticks only works if you have an Embiid level talent to spearhead it. When you have a mid player like Cade at the forefront, it's going to get ugly. What I think needs to be done is that they need to consolidate some of the young talent by bringing in more proven players that fit better. For instance, use Ivey as trade bait especially if you're not going to utilize him much. I don't know what he'd be worth but I'm sure there's teams that see the talent and would be willing to pony up a nice package. All I know is that it can't keep going on like this. Losing begets more losing and these guys play like players that have no idea how to win. The 4th quarters from the games I've seen have been ugly, every single one of them. Losing is engrained deep in this culture right now and it's consuming these guys.

Cade ain't the guy and it's becoming more and more clear that Casey was unfairly scapegoated. This team is just as bad as last year and this is with the "franchise player" that they didn't have last year. Another long, ugly season ahead and Weaver should be on the hot seat if the win total barely budges from the 16 last year which is certainly possible.

There's too much obsession with Jamo anyway not just here but all over social media as well. The Lions are 7-2 and have a top 5 offense yet we get all this Jamo talk. I get that he was a high pick that they traded up for but who cares right now? The focus should be on enjoying the Lions success and riding that wave. If they were losing and the offense stunk then I'd understand if that what looks like failed pick would be the center of discussion but that's not the case.

Lol, you're killing it today TP. **** on Ben Johnson, who is one of the elite OCs in the league, endlessly and praise Jamo who is a blocking receiver at this point in his career which would be fine if he was taken in the 6th round and not 12th overall. FTR, I'm one of those who is willing to be patient with Jamo but I just find it hilarious that you defend him and constantly criticize the orchestrator of a top 5 offense although, yes, BJ has had a few questionable playcalls in the Red Zone at times as anybody does since nobody is perfect.

Seriously, he's like Teflon Cade with some completely free of criticism but the reality is that he's not a good NBA starter at this point in his career. Inefficient, turnover prone and poor defensively. Yeah he's still young and doesn't have much help but it's time to start questioning whether or not he's the guy to lead this franchise.

I do remember 6-2 when Big Bad Shaun Rogers returned the INT for a TD against Denver. Then I also remembered when, I believe, they went 1-7 the rest of the way.

He's a top 5 receiver in the league when you take into account his overall play as a blocker also and his uncanny ability to come up with the big catch so often and the dawg mentality. He might not get you the 70 yard TD in the air like a Hill, Diggs or Chase which is why those guys are the elite of the elite but I don't know who in that 2nd tier I'd take over him.

7-2 headed into the 2 game home stretch with the Bears and Packers looks mighty tasty. It would be nice if a team, any team, learned how to play against the Vikings and knocked them down a peck.

Also, Ben Johnson is a star. His playcalling in the redzone has been questionable at times this season but man does he call some masterful plays capped off with that throw back to Raymond on the final drive.

I actually think that 4th down call was a no brainer. Put this game on the offense, not the defense.

7-2 baby, with home games against Chicago and Green Bay coming up. This is a Superbowl offense, everybody big time today. REALLY wish they had that pass rusher opposite of Hutch (maybe when Houston returns) but this offense and run defense can win the Lions a SB especially if they get home field.

Gotta score another TD when they get the ball back at 38-38

The defense is utterly useless, as expected. Either the Lions score a TD on every possession the rest of the game or it's over. Looking at this now, even more frustrating that Holmes did zip at the deadline to address the defense.

Offense needs to keep scoring. This could be like the Seattle game last year, 48-45

Getting lit up my Herbert. Like I said this week, they can't stop any halfway decent QB.

Can't leave him 1 on 1 which they did on the TD. That could be fixed by scheme.

Just have to keep scoring points because the Chargers offense is going to keep scoring.

He had a lot of those numbers in the first 3 quarters. When he came in during the 4th and the ball was largely taken out of Sasser's hands, the team fell apart. It's not all on Cade but, again, he was loose with the ball and was making poor decisions overall. He's done this multiple times in the 4th quarter this season. Of course it's not all his fault as guys (Stewart namely) missed some wide open shots but he needs to be held accountable for making mistakes with the ball fairly frequently with the game on the line. With that said, he needs help. There's a lot of injuries and I think he feels the need to do too much which leads to these turnovers so there's probably a reason why he's pressing so much. Cade is going to be good eventually but he doesn't play efficient/winning basketball at this point in his career and I think it's something to be noted with him being the franchise player.

Sure but then you look at the game logs and see that Geno Smith and Lamar Jackson had their best games of the season against the Lions defense. @MichiganCardinal It's a valid concern IMO.

Even putting the Kelce injury aside, there was a ridiculous amount of dropped passes by Chiefs receivers all in key moments it seemed like so my point is that Mahomes passing numbers in that game is deceiving. For instance, if Toney makes that catch (and he was WIDE OPEN) on the final drive, the Chiefs are more than likely kicking a FG to win that game. My general point is that the Lions defense has played well against the bottom of the barrel QBs but have gotten shredded against the better ones so I think it's likely that Herbert has a big day against them especially if they let Keenan Allen go 1 on 1.

Who did Milwaukee rest? Middleton is injured I believe and Giannis got himself kicked out of the game in the 3rd. Also, the Pistons have missed like 4-6 rotation players pretty much the entire season so it's hard to feel bad for other teams missing players.

I loved the Sasser pick on draft day because he just has that microwave ability to get buckets, plus the intensity on the defensive end. I'm interested to see what his ceiling is because I think it's higher than some people might think. Cade continues to make poor decisions when teams ratchet up the pressure. This has always been an issue for him and was something I hope would get fixed with more experience but hasn't thus far. His statline looks good but he was poor in the clutch again. I suppose this can be looked at as a "good loss" but I look at it as a choke. They had the game in control and completely wilted once the Bucks put it into next gear, without Giannis and Middleton btw. At some point, they need to learn how to win a few of these and I see no progression in that respect which is concerning the longer this goes on because constant losing becomes contagious and is a really hard mentality to rid of when it happens too often.

The Mahomes numbers are deceiving due to no Kelce and they dropped tons of passes. Geno had arguably his best game of the season against them. The Lions defense has played well against Ridder, Young, Love, Mayfield and Jimmy G so we really don't know if they're good or not. Herbert struggled on the road against a much better defense in a stadium that's notoriously tough on QBs so I don't think that indicates that he'll struggle this week. I think he'll have a big day against the Lions defense in an inside stadium especially if Glenn predominantly rushes 4 but I also expect the Lions to move the ball well against the Chargers defense.