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I'm starting to wonder if Cade is a PG. He's one of the worst ball handlers I've ever seen and it seems to be getting worse and worse. It's not like the handle itself is bad, it's that he's very lazy/careless with the ball and stuff like that just doesn't seem fixable.

Again, I'm talking about this season, "was" in terms of what we've seen up to this point. I thought that was obvious but I guess not. REynolds has 397 yards, the next guy has 231 yards. Reynolds has been the #2 this season. #3 if you include Laporta as a receiver. And you still haven't told me who the #2 was if he was the #3. IF you think Peoples-Jones will get more targets then maybe he'll be the #3. Seems like you clarified that you're projecting future targets so fair enough if you think Peoples-Jones will get the 2nd most targets. I'm not so sure about that but can't discount the possibilty. Anyway, and I'll just say it for the last time, my general point is that Reynolds is not going be displaced by Peoples-Jones. It'll likely be receiver by committee, whoever is hot at the time. Peoples-Jones is taking on the role that they envisioned with Marvin Jones as an X receiver. I should have probably copied and pasted the last 3 times I said it haha.

I'm not haha. You said I'm wrong that Reynolds was the Lions #2, that he was the #3 and I asked you multiple times who was the #2 then and still nothing. I'm now aware that I'm not going to get an answer and an explanation as to why I was wrong so I'll leave it at that. My general point is that Reynolds isn't getting displaced by Peoples-Jones. It'll simply be a shared workload. They're probably hoping that DPS will bring what Marvin couldn't.

You still haven't told me who was the #2 receiver on the Lions. We keep going in circles and still haven't told me who has been the #2 for the Lions. IF he's the #3, who has been ahead of him besides ASRB? I'm talking receivers, not the star rookie TE.

I'm not talking about going forward because I can't predict that. My general point is that Reynolds isn't being replaced by anybody because he WAS the #2 and will still be a key member of the offense going forward. I'm not even saying that he's a real #2 but he was the #2 on this team this season pretty much by default but also because he's put up pretty solid numbers as well and has been their big play guy for the clutch catches along with Amon Ra of course.

How am I not correct? Who has been the #2 receiver target this season if not Reynolds? I eagerly await your answer.

I don't know what you're arguing. Reynolds has been the #2 target this season so far. Who do you think has been? Raymond? Jones? Jamo? I'm just talking receivers, not including LaPorta. My general point is that Reynolds isn't going to lose out to anybody. He'll still be a key part of the offense this season even with Peoples-Jones. Peoples-Jones will play the Marvin Jones role or at least the one they envisioned for Jones, the contested catch guy.

Reynolds has been their #2 guy this season, he's not losing out to anybody. This is a Marvin Jones replacement sprinkled in with a little putting Jamo on notice.

He likely passed on Young because he didn't fit the culture requirement. Young is from that Carter school of lazy tendencies so I doubt he was even a consideration for Holmes/Campbell. Personally, I think they need to look outside their bubble sometimes and take on talent even if they aren't the best personality fit and work with the player to get the most out of him. I know that sacks isn't the end all be all but Young would be the Lions leading sack getter, a 3rd rounder would have been a small price to pay for talent like that. Maybe they are banking on Houston coming back but there's no guarantee that he gets up to speed coming off the injury.

As an Edmonton Oilers fan, this meme frustrates me because I've been living this for the last 4 years with exactly zero Conference Finals wins in McDavid and Draisaitl's prime but I digress. I'm getting a little hint of this from Holmes and Campbell as well. "We like our guys" "The Answer is in the room" "Has to be a culture fit" etc. They're doing well so far but I wonder if this mentality puts a cap on their upside.

I feel a little salty about Young going to the Niners for a 3rd. I'm not the biggest Young fan but that's pretty cheap for a young talented pass rusher even if he's a rental.

I'm a fan of Sweat, I brought him up in the GDT as a realistic target but that's when I thought it would cost a 3rd. Seeing that the Bears gave up what is almost a 1st for him, I realized how unrealistic it was for the Lions. It also illustrates my other fear that this is a sellers market because there are so few sellers and plenty of buyers. Little did I know, however, that the Bears would be one of the buyers. It's not just about whether the draft pick turns out to be as good as Sweat. It's also about cap management. You're giving up 5 years of cheap contract high upside for a 28 year old player that's going to command big money when the Lions have a lot of key guys due for enormous raises in the next 2-3 years starting this offseason with Jonah and that's assuming that you get Sweat locked up as he could just as easily test the market. I just think a 1st, even a late one, would have been too rich. I'm aiming higher and for a player with term if I'm parting with a 1st.

The Bears traded what will be very high 2nd for him so how else do you expect the Lions to beat that offer? I guess they could have offered a 2nd+later of the two 3rds, would you have done that?

You would have traded a 1st for Sweat?

Was busy watching the Lions game so I missed this one. I'm not surprised by the result, the Thunder are what the Pistons hope to be in 1-2 years. Oh and Cade with 7 turnovers is a real eye sore. He has to clean that up, he's way too loose with the ball in his NBA career thus far.

It was a BS call, period. He lost the ball after he was laying on the ground, that is not a fumble by NFL rules. Running right at Maxx Crosby with your backup RB on a 2nd and goal from the 4 is not a good playcall, but that's just my opinion. If Montgomery was in, I run the ball but not with Reynolds even though he had a solid game. Either way, it was a sloppy game by the Lions even with the yards domination so we agree there.

That wasn't a fumble though. Didn't like the playcall however.

6-2 get me a pass rusher Brad and lets get healthy for the Chargers.

They've made more mistakes than the Raiders have yards.

Still a 2 score game somehow. Should be like a 6 score game.

I hear you but that shouldn't play into Holmes decision to improve the roster now. They could get a quality player without giving up a 1st, they have two 3rds. The Crosby thing was tongue-in-cheek, I know it's pure fantasy. Montez Sweat is a name that peaks my interest that could be had for a 3rd or so.

Correction. Bury this team, make sure Maxx Crosby doesn't leave Detroit and then get two weeks off.

Gibbs is having himself a GAME. This is like a 41-7 game disguised as 23-14

Another bad playcall. 2nd down run from 4 yards out with your 3rd stringer.

It was a 2nd and 1, I would have run it. I get frustrated when they run on 2nd and 10 like they did in the previous redzone trip.