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Some of us do, but then are accused of blaming Hinch for all of this teams problems. I like AJ Hinch, even with all of their problems, but a portion of this fanbase treats him like a God who is above questioning. In light of the often-heard comment that is applied to him with doubleheaders (ie. sell out to win the first game, worry about the second game later), the decision last night to wait to get Chafin up until the bases were loaded looks pretty bad. It's easy to second guess, but he had a similar situation arise against Baltimore earlier in the year and had Will Vest up, so it's not as if it's unprecedented.

As much as some of the free agents have underperformed (ie. Baez) or have been MIA (ie. ERod, Pineda), the 2021-22 free agency period isn't why this team finds itself at this juncture. The factors you mentioned (drafting/developing, trading) are much larger factors.

Agree here as well. Clemens wasn't ever gonna be a savior, but they were gonna need to see what they had on the 40 man roster at some point.

I'd add Brieske, Faedo, Lange and Vest. But otherwise I can't disagree.

I wouldn't mind seeing Brendon Davis at some point, but otherwise, this is true.... Clemens is here (and hasn't been good), and we know what Zack Short can do.

I get it.... the bigger point is the status quo kinda needs to be rocked at this point. Whether that comes in the form of Coolbaugh being a sacrificial lamb or a surprise DFA (ie. Grossman). At least as an outside observer, guys just appear to be way too comfortable with the **** results.

I don't know if they need a different manager, but I don't know how anyone can watch this ****show at this point and not be willing to look at Hinch and his role in all of this. Particularly given that Coolbaugh is still employed and Hinch is probably the biggest factor in that still being the case.

I remember being told a few times in 2003 how it was a bold move to be wearing my Tigers hat around.... It just is what it is.... I wasn't born a Dodgers fan, unfortunately. lol

Why not both? We can talk talent all we want, but you've got numerous guys who aren't performing up to their career norms and appear to be exhibiting a lack of any sort of urgency to correct them. The status quo, which appears to be having ping pong tourneys, isn't gonna cut it.

I can't believe that someone was paid good money to waste time on this graphic lol....

Maybe Dan Campbell could break the Ping Pong table lol

This team has an incredible inability to read the room lol

Philosophically, I tend to lean more toward the AJ style than the Jimmy Smokes style... but this team badly needs a Jimmy Smokes moment to light a fire under them. It's not a good or bad thing per se, more of a style thing, but it's not something that AJ is gonna do.

That team was what it was... one with little expectations.

Was too young to remember much of that season.... Pretty much the inverse of 2022 tho, decent to good offense, terrible pitching.

Tonight reminded me a little bit of the Baltimore game where Soto lost control, but in that one he got Vest up in a hurry and brought him out. I dont know why he couldn't have done that with Vest tonight... he didn't pitch last night iirc. And you have your best pitcher going tomorrow

I'm invested in two tickets next month in Chicago while visiting family. Beginning to wonder whether the time would be better spent going literally anywhere else in that city lol

I'm hesitant because recency bias is a real thing, but honestly I'm not sure I've hated a Tiger team more than this one. Maybe hate is too strong of a word, but I at least hate watching this stuff more than the others... And I was here for 2003 and 2008 too. I'm happy for the individual performances and growth of players like Skubal, Brieske, Faedo, Lange, Vest, etc. But the rest of this product largely sucks to watch.

Yeah, they completely wasted Brieske's outing as well. He legit looked good tonight, deserved the W, but the lack of any spark offensively kills

Omg, roboumps

Vest and Fulmer as well

If you are a lefty reliever who struggles and can't pitch to left handed batters, you probably shouldn't be a closer. Like, that's where the walks and HBP happened. Unreal

Lol

Also, Beau Brieske getting attention from Pitching Ninja... did not see that coming lol