buddha Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Deleterious said: He passes and rebounds too well to be Allen. If his shot doesn't develop he can still be a decent contributor on a good team. so he's ben simmons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, buddha said: so he's ben simmons? People did make that comparison before the draft but it doesn't fit IMO. Simmons won't shoot, not even layups. Givony wrote an article about Simmons before his draft about not working hard. All reports about Ausar are about how hard he works. I don't think Simmons wants to play basketball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Deleterious said: He passes and rebounds too well to be Allen. If his shot doesn't develop he can still be a decent contributor on a good team. Unlike some guys that are all fast twitchy, he looks very smooth in his movement. I'll take that as a sign he has the fine motor to become a better shooter, but I guess time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Deleterious said: People did make that comparison before the draft but it doesn't fit IMO. Simmons won't shoot, not even layups. Givony wrote an article about Simmons before his draft about not working hard. All reports about Ausar are about how hard he works. I don't think Simmons wants to play basketball. it fits in the potential discussion. if he is all defense and has great vision and passing skills but cannot shoot, simmons is a good comp. simmons is a unique character in that he REFUSES to shoot and REFUSES to play, making every excuse in the book from back injuries to mythical psyche injuries that will conform with the cba guidelines. in that way, it does not fit. but in the skills category, it definitely fits if he cannot shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 tom gores is 58 years old and shows up on the sideline in a camoflage muscle shirt. what a ****ing douchebag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, buddha said: it fits in the potential discussion. if he is all defense and has great vision and passing skills but cannot shoot, simmons is a good comp. simmons is a unique character in that he REFUSES to shoot and REFUSES to play, making every excuse in the book from back injuries to mythical psyche injuries that will conform with the cba guidelines. in that way, it does not fit. but in the skills category, it definitely fits if he cannot shoot. And every team in the league would love to have Simmons if he had it together between his ears and his work ethic was there. If you want to say that Simmons without the mental issues is Ausar's starting point, then that's a heck of a pick. From there, I'm happy to gamble on Ausar's work ethic and high character to push him further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Betrayer said: And every team in the league would love to have Simmons if he had it together between his ears and his work ethic was there. If you want to say that Simmons without the mental issues is Ausar's starting point, then that's a heck of a pick. From there, I'm happy to gamble on Ausar's work ethic and high character to push him further. its not a criticism. his defense looks legit. his playmaking and basketball sense look legit. i do wonder where the offense will come from and what the team looks like if it never comes and other teams just leave him in the corner and crash the paint. if his comp is igudola, is his brother's comp jason kidd? man, i do love overreacting to everything in summer league. an annual tradition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I like the Iguodola comp, that would probably be a near best case outcome for the him and the Pistons but I do see the similarities particularly in the young Iggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYLion Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, buddha said: not to be a debbie downer, but his shot is broke. if he can make it a viable - or even semi acceptable weapon - he's an all star. if not, he's tony allen. I don't see it, Ausar is a far better playmaker than Allen was. Even if his 3 pointer never comes around, he has a higher floor than Allen because he has creation skills. I wouldn't say "broke" necessarily but he certainly doesn't have a smooth stroke and the shot is pretty flat so I'm also skeptical that he ever becomes an above average 3 point shooter. Edited July 14, 2023 by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) Is Ausar Thompson a Gerald Wallace type player with more playmaking ability? They're both 6'7 G/F hybrids. I also saw someone mention on reddit that he's a tough nosed, smart, high BBIQ, defensively sound player as Wallace was. Someone like Wallace during his run in Charlotte who will average you 16-18ppg, 2-3 assists, and 2-3 steals. I remember watching Wallace during the Goin to Work era when I watched a lot of NBA because the Pistons were actually worth watching night in and out. Is Gerald Wallace a fair comparison? Edited July 14, 2023 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 Why are we so obsessed with comparing past players with guys who have never been on an NBA court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Deleterious said: Why are we so obsessed with comparing past players with guys who have never been on an NBA court? It's the same with every sport. Until we have something of their own to go off of, we as fans nearly universally like to try and project what their teams new shiny toy might be like. Makes us feel better (or in the case of Bob Quinn and SVG drafts worse) about the player our team has drafted. It also gives us something to look forward to stat wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I'm not really good at comparing a specific player to another in regards to their actual play style but I do like to compare how guys may turn out in the grand scheme of things as a whole. For instance when we drafted Cade I compared him to possibly being a Middleton like player as his floor, I didn't mean that they played the same way I was just referencing the fact that at the very least I felt he should turn out to be a fringe All Star type guy who could be a solid number 2 or number 3 on a good team at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 I wasn't trying to bash anyone. I do it as much as anyone else. Its fun and harmless. I just think (Hope) Ausar looks like a very different player in 3-5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Whitmore tearing it up in SL. Had 26 pts, 5 rebounds and 8 steals. I have no idea if these guys can play as a team, but Rockets individual talent has been showing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Yeah Whitmore has looked really good but even if he carries it over to the regular season I think it is going to take time before people can question the teams for passing on him since the concerns they reportedly had aren't something that necessarily are going to show up right away. Like the vague medical reports about his knees, teams may have seen something there that made them of the belief that either an injury is coming soon or more likely to happen at some time in the future. Same with his alleged motivational issues teams felt he had during workouts. That could be something that shows up later in time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Another really good game from Ausar. Just filling up the stat sheet. 18 pts and 14 rebounds in another comeback victory. His defense was next level again as well. Cazalone is not afraid to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 I have to keep reminding myself this is only SL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deleterious Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 Huh. I thought they were done. I bet Ausar doesn't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 So the other rookie has not enjoyed the success that Ausar has. Sasser is taking 6 3PT shots per game and only hitting at 16%. I have not been that impressed with his defense either. And those were the two things advertised when we picked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Deleterious said: So the other rookie has not enjoyed the success that Ausar has. Sasser is taking 6 3PT shots per game and only hitting at 16%. I have not been that impressed with his defense either. And those were the two things advertised when we picked him. he's got a push shot that seems to start at his hip. gonna get swatted a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 21 hours ago, Deleterious said: I have to keep reminding myself this is only SL. Exactly. Can't put much stock into what we are seeing. But I am not going to tell anybody not to be excited about Ausar either. He was the #5 pick in the draft, clearly has a lot of potential, and it's the season for optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just a random guy on the street. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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