MichiganCardinal Posted January 1 Author Posted January 1 2 hours ago, lordstanley said: Ok, it MAY not be as bad as the Detroit Times' re-tweet. I saw they sourced it from Ian Rapoport, but there was nothing on Ian's X feed about it. So I see that it comes from a radio interview he did this morning. Seems to me he just assumes it, rather than getting a news alert from Campbell about it. https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/aidan-hutchinson-making-strides-pool-workout “You saw David Montgomery in those highlights making a bunch of plays, really has been one of the best backs in the NFL through the course of the year. Of course, not gonna play in this game," said Rapoport. "Still rehabbing that knee injury, but not going to play in this game. (He’s) one of a slew of Lions players who played in that (Week 7) game and are not going to play in this one. Aidan Hutchinson is not gonna play in both games, so he is not on the list. Alex Anzalone, the play-making linebacker with a broken forearm, he played in that (Week 7) game, not gonna play in this one. Malcolm Rodriguez, "Rodrigo", the tackling machine of a linebacker. He has a torn ACL, he is out. Carlton Davis with a fractured jaw, another one who is out for this game, potentially has a chance to come back for the playoffs. And then Alim McNeill, their star defensive lineman, he is out with a torn ACL. So, he is for sure out for the season. That’s the Lions, and it’s a lot of them. A lot of them who played in this game and are not gonna play in the game on Sunday night.” I would agree that this is analysis, not reporting. Quote
RedRamage Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 12/31/2024 at 3:35 PM, RedRamage said: I had to cut it off at 12 wins... it just got too crowded at that bottom. In case you're curious: 11 - Tommy Hudspeth 10 - Harry Gilmer & Rod Marinelli 6 - Gus Henderson & Don McCafferty 5 - Marty Mornhinweg 4 - Bill Edwards & Gary Moeller 1 - **** Jauron & Darrell Bevell 0 - John Karcis (coached 8 games, no wins.) & Robert Price Quick Edit to add: This is only regular season wins. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 2 Posted January 2 The Fontes and Potsy are the two winniest coaches in Lions history. Those must of been some happy days. 1 Quote
Tenacious D Posted January 2 Posted January 2 I believe it’s still true that none of the Lions head coaches over the last 40 years ever received another head coaching job in the NFL. Basically been a coaching graveyard. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 10 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: I believe it’s still true that none of the Lions head coaches over the last 40 years ever received another head coaching job in the NFL. Basically been a coaching graveyard. Schwartz might break the hex. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted January 2 Posted January 2 BTW the game drew over 22 million viewers making it the most watched MNF game of the season and among the 5 most watched since 2006. Not bad for a "meaningless" game featuring a team that nobody outside of Detroit supposedly cares about. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Everybody was watching because they wanted to see a Lions starter get injured so all the Tuesday morning shows could say I told you so. Quote
RedRamage Posted January 3 Posted January 3 On 1/2/2025 at 11:16 AM, Tenacious D said: I believe it’s still true that none of the Lions head coaches over the last 40 years ever received another head coaching job in the NFL. Basically been a coaching graveyard. It depends on if you include interim HCs and if you include non-NFL HC jobs: Darrel Bevell was an Interim HC in '20 for the Lions and in '21 for the Jags. Matt Patricia hasn't been a HC since. Jim Caldwell hasn't been a HC since. Jim Schwartz hasn't been a HC since. Rod Marinelli hasn't been a HC since. **** Jauron was the intern head coach for the Lions for 5 games in 2005 and the Bills hired him as their HC in '06 - '09. Steve Mariucci hasn't been a HC since. Marty Mornhinweg hasn't been a HC since. Bobby Ross was hired as Army HC for 3 years after leaving the Lions. Wayne Fontes hasn't been a HC since. Darryl Rogers coached the Oklahoma City Twisters in '90 and the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (CFL) in '91. Tommy Hudspeth coached the Toronto Argonauts (CFL) for a few years after leaving Detroit. Rick Forzano hasn't been a HC since. Don McCafferty hasn't been a HC since. Joe Schmidt hasn't been a HC since. Harry Gilmer hasn't been a HC since. George Wilson went on to coach the Dolphins after leaving the Lions, but his last year there was 1969... 1970 is when the AFL and NFL merged so this wasn't, technically, and NFL team when Wilson was coaching it. And finally we get to Buddy Parker who coached the Pittsburgh Steelers from '57-'64. More than 60 years back until we get a hired Lions HC who was hired by another NFL team as their HC. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 I feel bad for Robert Prince. Presumably a good guy and a good coach, who will go down as 0-1 all-time as a head coach, losing 47-7 to the Bucs, because the NFL during COVID didn't care that basically the entire Lions' interim coaching staff was exposed to COVID-19 (even though they postponed games for other teams during that same era). Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 3 Posted January 3 With so many coaches getting second chances, I'm surprised Fontes or Scwartz didn't get a second chance. Say what you will about Fontes, but the Lions were competitive under him and had their best stretch of football in the Super Bowl era under him until Dan Campbell. Schwartz took an 0-16 team and got them to 10 wins and the playoffs in 3 seasons. His issues were maturity which is something you can learn and grow from. He's been a successful coordinator with multiple teams since leaving the Lions. Caldwell left with a winning record, but unless you are elite, you generally don't get a third chance. An argument could be made for Mariucci. Give him a mulligan for working under Millen. Bobby Ross coached a team to a Super Bowl, but when the coach quits on the team, that probably ends your career. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: With so many coaches getting second chances, I'm surprised Fontes or Scwartz didn't get a second chance. Say what you will about Fontes, but the Lions were competitive under him and had their best stretch of football in the Super Bowl era under him until Dan Campbell. Schwartz took an 0-16 team and got them to 10 wins and the playoffs in 3 seasons. His issues were maturity which is something you can learn and grow from. He's been a successful coordinator with multiple teams since leaving the Lions. Caldwell left with a winning record, but unless you are elite, you generally don't get a third chance. An argument could be made for Mariucci. Give him a mulligan for working under Millen. Bobby Ross coached a team to a Super Bowl, but when the coach quits on the team, that probably ends your career. I thought Schwartz deserved another shot. He had a lot of that Dan Campbell energy to him, was a defensive genius, and his players loved playing for him... but was just a little too excited, a little too far gone. Like when he single handedly cost us a touchdown (in a game we lost by 3 in OT) by throwing a challenge flag on an automatically reviewed play during the year where that was not only an unsportsmanlike conduct foul, but also resulted in them not reviewing the play... Or when we would consistently be bottom five in the league in penalties because guys wanted to run through a wall, but lacked the discipline to do so effectively. If Glenn leaves next year and the Browns fire Stefanski, Schwartz would be a great dark horse candidate to return in the role of DC. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 12 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I'm surprised Fontes or Scwartz didn't get a second chance Not sure Fontes wanted one - or at least not very badly. He seemed pretty happy to walk away, but who really knows? Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 3 Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I thought Schwartz deserved another shot. He had a lot of that Dan Campbell energy to him, was a defensive genius, and his players loved playing for him... but was just a little too excited, a little too far gone. Like when he single handedly cost us a touchdown (in a game we lost by 3 in OT) by throwing a challenge flag on an automatically reviewed play during the year where that was not only an unsportsmanlike conduct foul, but also resulted in them not reviewing the play... Or when we would consistently be bottom five in the league in penalties because guys wanted to run through a wall, but lacked the discipline to do so effectively. If Glenn leaves next year and the Browns fire Stefanski, Schwartz would be a great dark horse candidate to return in the role of DC. Those are things you can grow from and mature. I'm just surprised there never seemed to be much interest in Schwartz even. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Not sure Fontes wanted one - or at least not very badly. He seemed pretty happy to walk away, but who really knows? That's most likely since he never coached at any level after the Lions. Quote
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