The 119th United States Congress

[Tigerbomb13]

Lander is also a Jew?

[pfife]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

 leftist 

Shots!

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Lander is also a Jew?

Believe so. But Goldman is establishment - relatively old money, Yale.

I thought he was great in the 1st impeachment. Have little idea what he's done since.

Edited 23 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

Goldman is a member of the progressive caucus, co-sponsor of Medicare for All, and supporter of the Green New Deal. This is all because of Israel and not because he isn’t progressive. 

[pfife]

Imagine thinking someone shouldnt be primaried. 

[Motown Bombers]

Imagine thinking someone said he shouldn’t be primaried. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

10 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

LOL Goldman is a progressive but he’s a Jew so leftist are going to primary him. 

He's being primaried by, wait for it . . . Another Jew in Brad Lander.

Edited 15 hours ago by Mr.TaterSalad

[Mr.TaterSalad]

9 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Lander is also a Jew?

Yes. Lander is a practicing Jew as well. I guess he's not the right type of Jew though because he isn't a Zionist through and through.

[Motown Bombers]

8 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

He's being primaried by, wait for it . . . Another Jew in Brad Lander.

So? He’s being primaried because he’s a Jew who stands up for Jews. This right here is why he is being primaried: 

Edited 15 hours ago by Motown Bombers

[Motown Bombers]

I can’t wait until Ladner loses and blames AIPAC, the establishment, and the DNC. 

[pfife]

Lol

[pfife]

Like when the establishment loses and blames progressives like your poasts hypocrite

[gehringer_2]

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I can’t wait until Ladner loses and blames AIPAC, the establishment, and the DNC. 

Leftist prog politicians are just as ambitious as any other kind. Some of them see an opening to win a seat on Mamdani's coatails and NY10 is probably the only place they can try it. It's not going to be that easy to unseat a guy who polled 80% in the last election though. Voters are creatures of habit to a larger degree than politician or talking heads like to admit.

By November (ok - make that August) we don't know what kind of approval Mamdani will still have or if the Gaza issue still has any resonance. Also worth noting that a record number of people voted against Mamdani as well as for him and turn out is a fickle thing. (IIRC Coumo got more votes than any or maybe almost any *winner* in decades)

We'll just have to wait and see how the cookie crumbles. 

Edited 11 hours ago by gehringer_2

[gehringer_2]

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I can’t wait until Ladner loses and blames AIPAC, the establishment, and the DNC. 

Israel is an issue with a huge generation gap. If you are old enough to remember '67 and/or '73, you have an image in your mind of small nation surrounded by powerful, hostile nations, backed by the Russian super power, just looking for an excuse to push Israel into the sea. But since then: Iraq has collapsed, Iran is pretty close to collapse, Syria has collapsed, Libya has collapsed, Egypt is a mess, Jordan is just barely hanging together. Russia - is, well the mess Russia is today. So if you are younger your orientation is much more along the line of: where is the big threat? It's Israel that is the big boy on the block throwing its weight around. And of course that is more true to day than at any time in 50yrs, But older voters still have a frame of reference of what the situation could easily be again, and that changes perceptions in the present.

Edited 10 hours ago by gehringer_2

[romad1]

14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Israel is an issue with a huge generation gap. If you are old enough to remember '67 and/or '73, you have an image in your mind of small nation surrounded by powerful, hostile nations, backed by the Russian super power, just looking for an excuse to push Israel into the sea. But since then: Iraq has collapsed, Iran is pretty close to collapse, Syria has collapsed, Libya has collapsed, Egypt is a mess, Jordan is just barely hanging together. Russia - is, well the mess Russia is today. So if you are younger your orientation is much more along the line of: where is the big threat? It's Israel that is the big boy on the block throwing its weight around. And of course that is more true to day than at any time in 50yrs, But older voters still have a frame of reference of what the situation could easily be again, and that changes perceptions in the present.

Not to mention that Sonny Elliot and many other Jewish people you'd know had a tattoo on their forearms. 

[gehringer_2]

16 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Not to mention that Sonny Elliot and many other Jewish people you'd know had a tattoo on their forearms. 

Puts me in mind of my family's long time next door neighbor, Sam.

Sam was a small, quiet but intensely witty man, strongly near sighted, CPA. Would have reminded you of Jerry Stiller to look at him. Won a silver star in Europe. Who can imagine what that kind of evil can pull out of ordinary good people in response. Conversely, you know Trump would have been schmoozing up to Hitler without a 2nd thought if he'd make the scene in 1936. 

Edited 10 hours ago by gehringer_2

[romad1]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

Puts me in mind of my family's long time next door neighbor, Sam.

Sam was a small, quiet but intensely witty man, strongly near sighted, CPA. Would have reminded you of Jerry Stiller to look at him. Won a silver star in Europe. Who can imagine what that kind of evil can pull out of ordinary good people in response. Conversely, you know Trump would have been schmoozing up to Hitler without a 2nd thought if he'd make the scene in 1936. 

He would have been hanging with David Windsor and his ilk.