Trumps Presidency 2025

[RatkoVarda]

 

Edited Wednesday at 11:00 PM by RatkoVarda

[pfife]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

As a side note, since I'm ignoring that clown, I'm glad he agrees Rashida Tlaib is useless. 

Ignoring and also not ignoring simultaneously. 

[LaceyLou]

6 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

 

The Onion might be closer to the truth than it's trying to be-the truly sad and sick thing about this is that he probably really does think there's nothing wrong with going after young girls. Remember how he bragged about going backstage at the pageants he owned while teenagers were undressed?

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[CMRivdogs]

JVL nails it again...

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If you can’t believe in the Epstein case, then you have to give up all your other conspiracies, too.

MAGA has a list of conspiracies that have been formed against it:

• QAnon

• Russia Russia Russia Hoax

• The stolen 2020 election

• The Biden crime family

• Epstein as a story created by Democrats

And yet . . . where are the arrests?

If the 2020 election was stolen, then why hasn’t Trump’s FBI rolled up the people who did the stealing? Where is the investigation of the Biden crime family? Why aren’t the people who created the Russia hoax in jail? Where are the frazzledrip videos?

Hell: If Barrack Hussein Obama created the Jeffrey Epstein documents, as Trump now says, then why isn’t the FBI going after him right now?

In short: If you’re willing to accept that the Epstein files are all a hoax, then you have to admit that it was all bull**** and that none of the conspiracies you believed were true.

Which is tantamount to admitting that the establishment was right about everything.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/how-to-talk-to-your-maga-friends-about-jeffrey-epstein?utm_source=substack&publication_id=87281&post_id=168437474&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=false&r=45wcm&triedRedirect=true

[GalagaGuy]

 

[CMRivdogs]

 

[RatkoVarda]

[gehringer_2]

31 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

so only now they figure this out? 

Edited Thursday at 01:57 AM by gehringer_2

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, pfife said:

Ignoring and also not ignoring simultaneously. 

It's Heisenberg's universe, we just live here.

[Motown Bombers]

15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It's Heisenberg's universe, we just live here.

Unfortunately when you guys quote that clown, I see his posts. He's still triggered about Rashida Tlaib apparently from weeks ago 🤣

[Motown Bombers]

 

[RatkoVarda]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

in the next 2 months, Trump will either suicide or pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.

or both

Edited Thursday at 02:56 AM by RatkoVarda

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

in the next 2 months, Trump will either suicide or pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.

or both

or she may have psychotic breakdown trying to avoid ever closing her eyes....

Edited Thursday at 02:59 AM by gehringer_2

[pfife]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Unfortunately when you guys quote that clown, I see his posts. He's still triggered about Rashida Tlaib apparently from weeks ago 🤣

Ignoring and also not ignoring simultaneously.

You need technological help to quit me.

Edited Thursday at 03:54 AM by pfife

[pfife]

Lol at this jabroni calling literally anyone else triggered by rashida

So rich it got a tax cut last week while you cried about progressives AGAIN

[Motown Bombers]

 

[romad1]

https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/mike-pence-demands-trump-administration-release-full-epstein-files-the-time-has-come/

This guy's life is inconvenient for the Jan 6 people and Trump. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[oblong]

participation trophy.  MAGA loves them.

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

whether he's just lying or just can't remember doesn't make that much difference in the end to the fact that his fans don't care but should. Actually in this case, I don't think he meant to get it wrong because he was sort of backtracking when he shifted to "Biden reappointed him" but Trump being Trump, he wasn't going to correct himself, because if half the people didn't know the difference, he wasn't going to help them see it. So very deliberate in that sense.

So you’re going to answer the question on behalf of the guy I sent it to, instead of him? Fine, I will reply to you, then.

This is not a question of whether Trump’s fans should or shouldn’t care, or how they should react. Not germane to my point. This is a question of whether we can fairly assign responsibility for making untrue statements to Trump himself.

If the implication is that Trump is too stupid to understand literally anything he himself says, then how can he be held responsible for what he says? If he can’t possibly know that what he is saying is not the truth, because he is simply too stupid to know that, wouldn’t that presume that he is making an honest effort to tell the truth when he says blatantly untrue things, such as Biden was the one who hired Powell? If that’s so, that would mean Trump can’t actually be held responsible for telling a lie, because as a famous man once pithily observed, “it’s not a lie if you believe it.” But if Trump is a dishonest man, as everyone presumes he is, that means he must know he is lying. That he knows what the truth is. And that’s why I keep saying Trump knows what he’s doing when he lies. He knows what he is trying to accomplish.

Of course Trump is not some super genius or literal god who can control all events the way he can control the people who have glommed onto him (at least up to this point). Fun as it might be to hang that one on me, I never said or even remotely implied that he is. But it also can’t be both “he’s too stupid to know when he’s lying” and “he’s lying even though he’s too stupid to know that he’s lying”. That’s just not possible. Either he doesn’t know what he’s doing and thus is making an honest effort to be truthful, or he knows what he’s doing and what he’s trying to accomplish because he’s lying.

I mean, think about it: do you really believe that all of these untrue statements Trump constantly makes are simply honest mistakes on his part? That there could not possibly be anything like a persistent strategy on his part to reflexively blame anything and everything bad that happens to him on Biden and the Democrats, even when he knows it was he who did the thing himself, like hire Powell? That there’s no possible way he could even adhere to such a strategy, because he’s simply too idiotic and moronic to pull off even something as simple and elementary as that? Does that really pass your smell test with flying colors?

Personally, I think that’s giving Trump too much leeway. That’s why I keep saying, don’t let him off the hook like that. Recognize that he knows what he’s doing when he does that, because he does. And then hold him responsible for that. He should be, because he knows what he’s doing.

[Tiger337]

24 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Personally, I think that’s giving Trump too much leeway. That’s why I keep saying, don’t let him off the hook like that. Recognize that he knows what he’s doing when he does that, because he does. And then hold him responsible for that. He should be, because he knows what he’s doing.

Yes, he says untrue stuff on purpose, but I don't think he knows what he's doing in terms of some master plan.  I don't think there is any thought put into his lies.  it's all done in the moment.  He is a salesman. I don't think he distinguishes between reality and falsehood.  He just wants to make the sale and his customers buy pretty much anything he sells them.  He does not need to figure out how to straighten out the falsehood later, because the truth has no value to him.  

[GalagaGuy]

I can already see where this whole Epstein saga goes next.   Trump is going to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell and have her in front of the cameras the next day to tell the world how Trump had absolutely nothing to do with the Epstein files.   

 

Edited Thursday at 02:08 PM by GalagaGuy

[chasfh]

16 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I think Trump and many of his supporters are also misogynistic and there are conservative women who don't have a problem with that.  Or at least they have less of a problem with misogony that they do with what the other side offers or is perceived to be offering.  

I believe a lot of conservative women are fine with the misogyny because they've learned how to navigate and benefit from the patriarchy, in many cases because their looks are (or once were) valued on their own terms. A lot of them probably grew up in circumstances in which their looks were valued by their families more than any other attribute they might or might not have which, right or wrong, is true for many families. Plus, trading on their god-given looks is a lot easier than learning stuff in school, or learning how to make a living based on hard work and gumption.