Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Hasn't Trump's approval rating been between the high 30s and low 40s for most of the last eight years now?

I'll sit up and take notice when it drops to the low 30s and stays there.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

in the next 2 months, Trump will either suicide or pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.

or both

Not only will Trump not suicide, but I wonder whether, whenever he gets to the point that he knows he's going to die and soon, he won't try to figure out how to take as many people as he can to the grave with him, possibly by trying to push buttons on the way out.

[Motown Bombers]

17 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Hasn't Trump's approval rating been between the high 30s and low 40s for most of the last eight years now?

I'll sit up and take notice when it drops to the low 30s and stays there.

He was positive at the start of his term. He had always been positive on the economy. He's underwater on everything now. 

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

In other news, Robert Kraft gifted Vladimir Putin a Super Bowl ring in 2005.

[oblong]

23 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I believe a lot of conservative women are fine with the misogyny because they've learned how to navigate and benefit from the patriarchy, in many cases because their looks are (or once were) valued on their own terms. A lot of them probably grew up in circumstances in which their looks were valued by their families more than any other attribute they might or might not have which, right or wrong, is true for many families. Plus, trading on their god-given looks is a lot easier than learning stuff in school, or learning how to make a living based on hard work and gumption.

 

[chasfh]

5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

He was positive at the start of his term.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Yes, he says untrue stuff on purpose, but I don't think he knows what he's doing in terms of some master plan.  I don't think there is any thought put into his lies.  it's all done in the moment.  He is a salesman. I don't think he distinguishes between reality and falsehood.  He just wants to make the sale and his customers buy pretty much anything he sells them.  He does not need to figure out how to straighten out the falsehood later, because the truth has no value to him.  

Sure it's all done at the moment—in the service of an overall strategy, one that's simple as it gets, to simply blame everything bad that happens on Biden and the Democrats. That's a strategy, one that he is adhering to quite well. So give it up to him for that, at least. 😁 

It doesn't take a guppy or a goldfish to think up a lie in the moment. If he were really as random about what he says as you seem to be implying, wouldn't he be saying roughly 50% of the time that he himself is responsible for the bad things that happen around him? According only to the laws of probability, that's what a guy incapable of a strategy and speaking randomly would end up doing.

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[Motown Bombers]

24 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That doesn't mean he was underwater. 

 

[chasfh]

41 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

That doesn't mean he was underwater. 

 

Don't know if I would trust a Nate Silver-run poll aggregator that includes such right wing stalwarts as Rasmussen and Trafalgar and whatever the hell "InsiderAdvantage" is.

Gallup is a gold standard poll, and they have Trump at 47 at his high point on Inauguration Day. Above water would be 50 or higher. And to paraphrase Charles Comiskey from Eight Men Out:

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[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

10 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Don't know if I would trust a Nate Silver-run poll aggregator that includes such right wing stalwarts as Rasmussen and Trafalgar and whatever the hell "InsiderAdvantage" is.

Gallup is a gold standard poll, and they have Trump at 47 at his high point on Inauguration Day. Above water would be 50 or higher. And to paraphrase Charles Comiskey from Eight Men Out:

Insider Advantage has accurately polled Trump in the past.

Some polls have a neutral response so positive + negative ≠ 100

There are other polls that have him positive. Is there even a point to post them?

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Hasn't Trump's approval rating been between the high 30s and low 40s for most of the last eight years now?

I'll sit up and take notice when it drops to the low 30s and stays there.

I don't think it has ever been in the 30s other than random polls here and there.  It's been sitting from low to mid 40s pretty much all the time.  

[chasfh]

4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't think it has ever been in the 30s other than random polls here and there.  It's been sitting from low to mid 40s pretty much all the time.  

Exactly. So an X pundit posting numbers in the low 40s and then breathlessly claiming that Trump has an approval crisis is goldfish mentality.

[chasfh]

15 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Insider Advantage has accurately polled Trump in the past.

Some polls have a neutral response so positive + negative ≠ 100

There are other polls that have him positive. Is there even a point to post them?

Nope, I'll accept the gold standard as is, thanks.

FWIW, InsiderAdvantage, from Silver himself during the 2024 campaign:

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[CMRivdogs]

I haven’t seen any confirmation of this.

 

[Motown Bombers]

Trump is a morbidly obese 80 year old. I would be surprised if he didn't have chronic venous insufficiency. 

[RatkoVarda]

drudge was running photos of his massive swelled legs and bruised hands

[gehringer_2]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Not only will Trump not suicide, but I wonder whether, whenever he gets to the point that he knows he's going to die and soon, he won't try to figure out how to take as many people as he can to the grave with him, possibly by trying to push buttons on the way out.

I'm going to guess RV didn't meant Trump would suicide himself, but that he would "suicide" Maxwell, as in have her murdered in deniable circumstances..

[LaceyLou]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

I believe a lot of conservative women are fine with the misogyny because they've learned how to navigate and benefit from the patriarchy, in many cases because their looks are (or once were) valued on their own terms. A lot of them probably grew up in circumstances in which their looks were valued by their families more than any other attribute they might or might not have which, right or wrong, is true for many families. Plus, trading on their god-given looks is a lot easier than learning stuff in school, or learning how to make a living based on hard work and gumption.

Many white women are also brought up to believe they need to be protected, and that only white men can protect them. Or, they're taught that they have a limited role in life, and that they're either not supposed to or are incapable of doing anything else well. 

Or, in some cases they grew up in a wealthy family, and then married money-they don't feel personally affected by misogyny. And frankly, if they don't see it that means it doesn't exist.

And... some women are committed to conservative values and see misogyny as something that can be eliminated over time (though how they expect that when they vote for certain candidates is a mystery to me).

[chasfh]

25 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

Many white women are also brought up to believe they need to be protected, and that only white men can protect them. Or, they're taught that they have a limited role in life, and that they're either not supposed to or are incapable of doing anything else well. 

Or, in some cases they grew up in a wealthy family, and then married money-they don't feel personally affected by misogyny. And frankly, if they don't see it that means it doesn't exist.

And... some women are committed to conservative values and see misogyny as something that can be eliminated over time (though how they expect that when they vote for certain candidates is a mystery to me).

I'd be interested in hearing what the upbringing along these lines were in your house, if you'd be willing to share that, because I am intrigued by this kind of thing. Totally cool if you don't feel comfortable doing so, of course.

[chasfh]

"This should teach you coloreds how much value your life has."

 

[LaceyLou]

17 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I'd be interested in hearing what the upbringing along these lines were in your house, if you'd be willing to share that, because I am intrigued by this kind of thing. Totally cool if you don't feel comfortable doing so, of course.

Honestly, I was quite lucky. My father was raised to do household chores (quite rare in the Depression era, I would think). He also encouraged my sister and me to get an education so that we could support ourselves and use whatever talents we might have. My mother ended up going back to school, too-I think at least partly because she watched her sister end up with nothing after becoming a widow at a young age (after giving up school because he didn't want his wife earning more than he did).

My SIL was raised by parents who paid for her brother to go to college out of state-but she had to stay home and commute (because he was the one who would be supporting a family). She was also told that her only choices were teaching, or nursing. When her parents came to visit, she would take off from work and pretend to be a stay at home wife, while my brother, who at times was a stay at home Dad, had to leave the house during the day and pretend to be at work.

I've heard many variations of this-but this is already a long post. Let's just say there's a reason a lot of middle-aged and older women encourage girls to be serious about their educations. 

It all seems like nonsense to me-even though I know that it was a different time.

[smr-nj]

4 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

I haven’t seen any confirmation of this.

 

Let’s see…… Epstein, blah blah, Epstein hoax evil democrats, Epstein .. “boring story”, blah blah blah, “I don’t need them”, Joe Biden , Epstein hoax, Obama, blah blah, Epstein…

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