Trumps Presidency 2025

[mtutiger]

We can (and probably will) debate how much public opinion actually matters, but in terms of public opinion regardless, not only do I think the retribution stuff doesn't help how people view him, I think it actually does hurt. Particularly at a time when the public is souring on him due to his actions on just about every political issue of the day.

And mark me down on saying that he'd be a idiot for ever going after the most popular political figure in the country.

[mtutiger]

14 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Careful what you wish for.

Why?

What I "wish" for doesn't really matter at this point, were gonna have to figure out how the lance the boil regardless

[CMRivdogs]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Lucky would be having the term cut short due to natural reasons

I don't think a President Vance would be an upgrade. It's probably what the hard core oligarchs would love  

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Why?

What I "wish" for doesn't really matter at this point, were gonna have to figure out how the lance the boil regardless

That’s fine, we don’t have to discuss why.  

[CMRivdogs]

I guess we can start calling Trump a Socialist now...in fact the entire party is akin to 1950s-2000 USSR

Thank you for your attention to this matter

 

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I guess we can start calling Trump a Socialist now...in fact the entire party is akin to 1950s-2000 USSR

Thank you for your attention to this matter

 

what does this do for either Intel or the US gov? Nothing really. Basically a photo-op for the CNBC crowd.

[Motown Bombers]

 

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[gehringer_2]

23 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

I guess don't see why government activity in the market would bother Bernie. If this had been any President other than Trump why would Bernie's support of this kind of move surprise anyone?

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

I don't think a President Vance would be an upgrade. It's probably what the hard core oligarchs would love  

He'd be better at using the levers of government maybe, but as a political athlete, he's really bad at it. I don't think he's inheriting the base

[smr-nj]

I think it’s already just about too late to save this democracy.  
Pains me to say that. And , no, I don’t mean to stop fighting…. But the light I think I’m seeing at the end of the tunnel is looking more and more like a steam-rolling train barreling down on all of us,

[Screwball]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

what does this do for either Intel or the US gov? Nothing really. Basically a photo-op for the CNBC crowd.

The CHIPS act alone sent around 8 billion to INTC, not counting the many more billions of .gov contracts via office, military, and defense contracts (the 17 spook agencies). All under some type of MIL spec to satisfy and protect our needs. We already control them in many ways.

.gov owning - assuming this 10% is publicly traded common stock - is probably not a good idea. The pigmen are quite creative though, we must give them that.

One of those political cartoon artist should do one with Trump as a young shoe shine boy telling his client it was the best time ever to buy stocks. That's an old market thing for those who don't follow.

It's almost like the very same pigmen need someone to sell to. Giggle.

[oblong]

6 hours ago, mtutiger said:

We can (and probably will) debate how much public opinion actually matters, but in terms of public opinion regardless, not only do I think the retribution stuff doesn't help how people view him, I think it actually does hurt. Particularly at a time when the public is souring on him due to his actions on just about every political issue of the day.

And mark me down on saying that he'd be an idiot for ever going after the most popular political figure in the country.

I don’t know what the word “hurt” means at this point with regard to him and his presidency.  They don’t care about legacy.  They have the house and senate.  The GOP won’t push back on him.  What difference does his approval rating mean?   

[ewsieg]

8 hours ago, mtutiger said:

We can (and probably will) debate how much public opinion actually matters, but in terms of public opinion regardless, not only do I think the retribution stuff doesn't help how people view him, I think it actually does hurt. Particularly at a time when the public is souring on him due to his actions on just about every political issue of the day

I hope independents are stepping back and paying attention.  Additionally there have been republicans that have openly talked off the record that they go along with Trump just so they can stop him if something serious happens.  The republicans in Congress are much more aligned with Bolton.   I’m not going to hold my breath though.