Trumps Presidency 2025

[RatkoVarda]

1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said:

You tell me.  

That's what I thought, thanks.

[oblong]

1 hour ago, GalagaGuy said:

You tell me.  

oh i see you are back to wanting others to prove your point for you rather than you doing it.

 

[Tigerbomb13]

2 hours ago, GalagaGuy said:

Guess we've moved on from clutching our pearls over criminals being deported and are now focused on those poor drug dealers just trying to earn a living.    

Shoot first, ask questions later. 

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Shoot first, ask questions later. 

Only if they are brown and/or poor.  

[GalagaGuy]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

That's what I thought, thanks.

I'm a Veteran so I tend to trust that the military knows what they're shooting at before doing so.  You're the one making the claims otherwise so it's up to you to provide the evidence to back that up.  

Stop playing stupid word games and show your work. 

[GalagaGuy]

8 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Only if they are brown and/or poor.  

Defend the criminals.................only if they are brown and/or poor.  

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said:

I'm a Veteran so I tend to trust that the military knows what they're shooting at before doing so.  You're the one making the claims otherwise so it's up to you to provide the evidence to back that up.  

Stop playing stupid word games and show your work. 

Were you on the Signal chat when they gave the go ahead?

[Motown Bombers]

Even if they were confirmed criminals, the smart thing to do would be to arrest them and interrogate them on their operations. 

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Defend the criminals.................only if they are brown and/or poor.  

I don't defend criminals.  I want due process for all. 

I also don't want my tax dollars wasted on a Trump tough guy show which is what most of this is about.   

[GalagaGuy]

9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't defend criminals.  I want due process for all. 

I also don't want my tax dollars wasted on a Trump tough guy show which is what most of this is about.   

Please stop with the "due process" talking point because as we've already seen, even when it's shown that the person being deported had already received their due process, you and your kind just pivot to something else. 

Simple fact, the USA has the right to enforce immigration laws. 

[Tiger337]

Just now, GalagaGuy said:

Please stop with the "due process" talking point because as we've already seen, even when it's shown that the person being deported had already received their due process, you and your kind just pivot to something else. 

Simple fact, the USA has the right to enforce immigration laws. 

Whether or not someone gets the death penalty also requires due process.  The only way this incident can be justified is if they knew for certain that this group was an immediate threat to lives of Americans. Possession of drugs or trying to get people into the country illegally is not justification for this.  

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

Whether or not someone gets the death penalty also requires due process.  The only way this incident can be justified is if they knew for certain that this group was an immediate threat to lives of Americans. Possession of drugs or trying to get people into the country illegally is not justification for this.  

Well I guess I'm just an awful person because I don't care about a boat full of drug smugglers getting blown out of the water.  

And you probably sit there wondering why a convicted felon is sitting in the oval office. 

[RatkoVarda]

"Pentagon officials were still working Wednesday on what legal authority they would tell the public was used to back up the extraordinary strike in international waters."

DOD: That boat was on double-secret probation.

[Tiger337]

Just now, GalagaGuy said:

Well I guess I'm just an awful person because I don't care about a boat full of drug smugglers getting blown out of the water.  

And you probably sit there wondering why a convicted felon is sitting in the oval office. 

Can you prove that they were all drug smugglers, adults and willing participants?  It's not about one incident though.  It's the principle.  

We have a convicted felon in the oval office because there are too many scared bigoted people in this country who believe everything he tells them.  

The fact is undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes than native born Americans.  Yes, we need to arrest and punish violators, but I don't want us diverting resources from more pressing matters.     

 

[CMRivdogs]

10 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Well I guess I'm just an awful person because I don't care about a boat full of drug smugglers getting blown out of the water.  

And you probably sit there wondering why a convicted felon is sitting in the oval office. 

Why go after the low lying fruit. They are expendable, I get it. However it's just theatre. Sinking the boat stops one small shipment. Why not seize the boat and go after the big money cartels and chop off the head.

This move by Trump did absolutely nothing in the scheme of things. 

[CMRivdogs]

13 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Well I guess I'm just an awful person because I don't care about a boat full of drug smugglers getting blown out of the water.  

And you probably sit there wondering why a convicted felon is sitting in the oval office. 

I wouldn't say awful, just short sighted. Much like the current administration.

 

[oblong]

41 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I'm a Veteran so I tend to trust that the military knows what they're shooting at before doing so.  You're the one making the claims otherwise so it's up to you to provide the evidence to back that up.  

Stop playing stupid word games and show your work. 

so as a Veteran you violate your oath.... so your status as a Veteran is null and void and meaningless. 

[CMRivdogs]

 

[Tiger337]

6 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I wouldn't say awful, just short sighted. Much like the current administration.

 

Galarraga is short sighted.  The current administration is awful.  

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

The number of people with diabetes has doubled (surprisingly he got that right), but that is a little misleading.  Some of it is because we are now better able to diagnose and treat diabetes and also because because people are living longer in general.  It is a big problem though which brings us to your point about his funding cuts for diabetes research. 

[oblong]

33 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

The number of people with diabetes has doubled (surprisingly he got that right), but that is a little misleading.  Some of it is because we are now better able to diagnose and treat diabetes and also because because people are living longer in general.  It is a big problem though which brings us to your point about his funding cuts for diabetes research. 

his point is to 'blame' people for getting diabetes and then make them suffer the consequences.

 

[GalagaGuy]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

so as a Veteran you violate your oath.... so your status as a Veteran is null and void and meaningless. 

Refresh my memory, what part of my oath said that drug dealers off the coast of South America are entitled to the favorite buzzwords of the bleeding hearts "due process"? 

You must really be outraged over the Bin Laden raid.   You are aware that during the raid there were multiple people killed, including two women, right?  How dare those Navy Seals Obama sent take aware their right to.....wait for it......due process!

[oblong]

you are a disgrace to the uniform to be honest.

 

[gehringer_2]

5 hours ago, GalagaGuy said:

Guess we've moved on from clutching our pearls over criminals being deported and are now focused on those poor drug dealers just trying to earn a living.    

where was any of this adjudicated? Even the drone strikes in the ME at least have a formal internal review process and the targets have to be identified as individuals. When you kill people without due process, that's murder by anybody's definition. Even any kind of police action requires suspects be given the opportunity to surrender. Were these people? You are only good with this because you feel securely beyond the reach of some arbitrary power doing it to you. But the screw has a way of turning.

We are officially a rogue nation. Have a nice day.

Edited September 4 by gehringer_2

[oblong]

it makes weak people like him feel tough to think that way. It's no skin off his back and his phony fears are subsided by the bleeding out of brown people far away.