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26 minutes ago, chasfh said:

No, that was America asking: "Who's Hasan?"

He will have exactly zero impact on any elections.

Just because you didn’t know who he was, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have influence. I had no idea who Bad Bunny was until like a month ago. Doesn’t make him any less influential. 

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I guess i missed where it was wrong to not vote for gavin newsome.   There are plenty of legitimate reasons for not voting for gavin newsome

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1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

He’s a popular leftist podcaster. 

No, that was America asking: "Who's Hasan?"

You know, because he's a nobody to the 99.5%+ of registered voters who don't subscribe to his YouTube channel.

Republicans voting for Republicans will have an impact on the elections. Hasan will not.

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

No, that was America asking: "Who's Hasan?"

He will have exactly zero impact on any elections.

I listen and like some of what Hasan Piker has to say. I don't listen to him as much as some other political podcasts, but he's in my rotation.

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5 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

The media hated Joe. 

Clicks were down

No real scandals other than his son lying on a form (oooh, big one there)

Sleepy Joe

Boring Joe

No-Clicks Joe

Yep, they hated him.  

Clicks being up are more important than protecting our Democracy and Ecomonmy

 

Obama was boring as **** too. 

I want boring.   Boring is good.   

A boring President is like watching a major league game where you don't know the home plate ump's name because he has not given you a reason to even bring it up - he's just doing his job.   

 

 

And here it is.  I think it's been done enough time in the last 40+ years that is a measurable trend

Republicans **** up the economy

Democrats fix it - but not fast enough

So stupid people blame them

The Democrats **** up the message

Republicans do it all over again. 

 

Welcome to the 2026 version.    Which may end up being the worst of them.   

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

No, that was America asking: "Who's Hasan?"

You know, because he's a nobody to the 99.5%+ of registered voters who don't subscribe to his YouTube channel.

Republicans voting for Republicans will have an impact on the elections. Hasan will not.

Wouldn't you know 0.5% would be enough to change the last three elections. Democrats not voting or voting 3rd party will have an impact, see uncommitted. 

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2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Wouldn't you know 0.5% would be enough to change the last three elections. Democrats not voting or voting 3rd party will have an impact, see uncommitted. 

I think the rush of Independents off the sidelines is going to more than make up for the 30 or 35 votes Hasan might cost the Democrats.

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I think the rush of Independents off the sidelines is going to more than make up for the 30 or 35 votes Hasan might cost the Democrats.

Hasan was part of the uncommitted movement. Their whole point was Democrats can't win without us so you need to listen to us or we won't vote and you will lose. They didn't vote and Dems lost. When you give them credit, it's now we're just smol beans and no one pays attention to us. 

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4 minutes ago, pfife said:

Withholding your vote from politicians you disagree with is what ur supposed to do

 

100% correct. No one should argue with this.  Spot On ...... but, go with me on this.  Let's just imagine a time where you weren't happy with the top two candidates so you said 'screw it' and voted for Gary Johnson.  Let's just say I understand what MB is saying.

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Just now, ewsieg said:

100% correct. No one should argue with this.  Spot On ...... but, go with me on this.  Let's just imagine a time where you weren't happy with the top two candidates so you said 'screw it' and voted for Gary Johnson.  Let's just say I understand what MB is saying.

So you evolved.   Whats MBs reasoning got to do with it?   You decided who you wanted to vote for multiple times, once happened to be for garys johnson.   Why is he deciding who anyone shoulda voted for besides himself?

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4 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

100% correct. No one should argue with this.  Spot On ...... but, go with me on this.  Let's just imagine a time where you weren't happy with the top two candidates so you said 'screw it' and voted for Gary Johnson.  Let's just say I understand what MB is saying.

Why does a person vote? Is it an exercise in ego gratification to make himself feel good, or is the purpose to try and make his country a better place for he and his fellow citizens?

The fact that a person 'made a statement' with their vote does exactly who besides his own ego any good?

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What if you dont want to vote for a politician because they will maintain policies you think make things worse for people you care about?

Or is that trumped by some self appointed decider of others' votes decided differently?

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10 minutes ago, pfife said:

What if you dont want to vote for a politician because they will maintain policies you think make things worse for people you care about?

Or is that trumped by some self appointed decider of others' votes decided differently?

If a person seriously can't decide which of the candidates that has a chance to win is overall better for the country, my advice would be for them to stay home.

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7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

If a person seriously can't decide which of the candidates that has a chance to win is overall better for the country, my advice would be for them to stay home.

So *you* get to proscibe the basis of others' votes too.

If a politician supports policies that hurt people i care about, you and mbs opinions are irrelevant to my vote and your continued insistence otherwise is at minimum ridiculous 

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candidate a:  has chance to win, supports policy that voter thinks would result in death of spouse within 2 years.

candidate b:  has chance to win, supports policy that voter thinks would result in death of spouse within 2 years, but country would be better.

candidate c :   has no chance to win, but explicitly does not support policy that voter things would result in death of spouse within 2 years. 

 

your reasoning:  everyone owes their vote to candidate b.  and if you had the audacity to NOT vote for candidate B, you, not everyone who voted for Candiate A, are responsible for everything candidate A does.

 

Me: I'm not voting to kill my spouse.   

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