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1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

fair question. I have no problem with the hammer falling wherever it may on those that covered for any of this in the past.

But action can only take place in the present, and someone is in a position to do something about it now.

If the past were an adequate excuse for the future we'd all still be caves.

That's weak, even for you.

Ghislaine Maxwell was on trial in 2022. None of the perpetrators were charged or named. Biden was president. The lead prosecutor was none other than Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey. They knew and did nothing.

They should rot in hell.

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2 hours ago, Screwball said:

That's weak, even for you.

Ghislaine Maxwell was on trial in 2022. None of the perpetrators were charged or named. Biden was president. The lead prosecutor was none other than Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey. They knew and did nothing.

They should rot in hell.

Looks right now that getting Maxwell sent up is more than these folks are going to do about anything. And she could have blown them all out of the water and wouldn't either. And now they've apparently sent her to Club Fed. 

The problem with this whole mess is that there is still way more smoke than fire. They had enough to charge Epstein for a 2nd time, they had enough to give Maxwell 20yrs. The rest is still buried in charges, countercharges and redactions.

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4 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Looks right now that getting Maxwell sent up is more than these folks are going to do about anything. And she could have blown them all out of the water and wouldn't either. And now they've apparently sent her to Club Fed. 

The problem with this whole mess is that there is still way more smoke than fire. They had enough to charge Epstein for a 2nd time, they had enough to give Maxwell 20yrs. The rest is still buried in charges, countercharges and redactions.

Everyone is afraid. If you don't play the game, you have no game - may end up dead if needed.

Not to downplay what all these sick ****s did, but it's also about blackmail, influence, and the continuing punishment of the working people of this country. We are not in the big club. They are, and the beatings will continue until moral improves.

I have no doubt what has been released is only the tip of the iceberg. Not that this is the first scandal in the history of the world, but it might be the best chance we the people have to expose and fix the rot. I don't think history has ever given us a movie more grotesque than this one - and right in our face - this should be easy.

If we had news this would be the lead story on every channel every night until justice is served. Hahahaha! Guess who owns all that.

As much as the people seem to hate each other today, I truly wish and hope this topic is one that may unite them. 

Do you have a son or daughter? This isn't difficult.

The first, the last, and everyone in between. Nothing else is acceptable.

 

Posted

Well the President says we need to move on and his AG, under oath, deflects to the stock market. So no, I’m not going to go along with attempts to “both sides” this.  

Posted
1 hour ago, romad1 said:

If KKK Leavitt believes any of this for real... 

I acknowledge that the key to winning any argument is to first train yourself to believe your position, even if you didn’t going in, but man, so can’t have convinced herself of this one, can she? Can she really be that empty a vessel?

She’s young enough to survive to experience the truth-and-reconciliation phase, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see her defense would be she was cast under some spell so didn’t know what she was doing or saying. There’s a whole swath of people to conditioned to believe that’s an actual thing.

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She's married to a dude 32 years older than she is.  She's not even 30.  She's a weirdo.  

She also got preggo before getting married, not something a good Catholic girl like herself should be doing.  NOrmally I don't judge those things but she loves to judge others so there it is...

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32 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I acknowledge that the key to winning any argument is to first train yourself to believe your position, even if you didn’t going in, but man, so can’t have convinced herself of this one, can she? Can she really be that empty a vessel?

She’s young enough to survive to experience the truth-and-reconciliation phase, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see her defense would be she was cast under some spell so didn’t know what she was doing or saying. There’s a whole swath of people to conditioned to believe that’s an actual thing.

 

6 minutes ago, oblong said:

She's married to a dude 32 years older than she is.  She's not even 30.  She's a weirdo.  

She also got preggo before getting married, not something a good Catholic girl like herself should be doing.  NOrmally I don't judge those things but she loves to judge others so there it is...

i'd ask if the MTF troll believes what she's saying.  Or have they already factored in that he's going to grift and that's the price they pay ... or don't care about, for all the wonder he's emitting like a wonder emitting machine.  

Posted
1 hour ago, oblong said:

She's married to a dude 32 years older than she is.  She's not even 30.  She's a weirdo.  

She also got preggo before getting married, not something a good Catholic girl like herself should be doing.  NOrmally I don't judge those things but she loves to judge others so there it is...

Do as we say not as we do.    I'm with you there.     So sick of these hypocrites.    Don't get my started on the Catholic church judging or sanctioning anything after what they allowed to happen for centuries. 

 

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I don't remember a declaration of war being declared by the Congress through the War Powers Act. Also, if you replaced the Mullahs in Iran with Evangelical Christian Pastors, you'd have everything the right wing wants in this country. So it is funny they are invading Iran, in-part because they are a Islamist theocracy. But were they Christian, they'd be celebrated and heralded.

Posted
21 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Trump has no memory of what he had for breakfast this morning

 

Lol...he said "they" say whoever he endorses is gonna win....No...anyone he endorses will lose. He's not only senile but also delusional.

Posted
21 hours ago, Screwball said:

That's weak, even for you.

Ghislaine Maxwell was on trial in 2022. None of the perpetrators were charged or named. Biden was president. The lead prosecutor was none other than Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey. They knew and did nothing.

They should rot in hell.

Ahhh...I dont know. Making yhe files public while Maxwell was on trial may have jeopardized the case against her. At least, from what I've heard. The problem now is Trump moving her to Club Fed and possibly giving her a pardon for lying for him. Total corruption. What's been done in the past isn't something that can be changed now but giving her any rewards is something that shouldn't be considered.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

The files were sealed under court order until 2024. There were investigations ongoing into co-conspirators that were ended by the Trump DOJ. 

Agreed. And let's not forget the sweetheart deal Epstein was given by Alexander Acosta..later named Secretary of Labor in Trump's corrupt administration. 

Posted
12 hours ago, oblong said:

Well the President says we need to move on and his AG, under oath, deflects to the stock market. So no, I’m not going to go along with attempts to “both sides” this.  

Both sides...That's funny. That's the point.

Read the names. Hundreds of names from both sides. What did the rest on both sides do? They took their campaign money, passes laws to enrich them, put their names on buildings, and even appoint them to high important positions. They all knew and did nothing, and even went as far as to help cover up what these sick ****s did over the last 20+. And now they all just lie to us and expect us to eat their ****. Both sides. **** them.

I know it's tough when the people you adore and worship turn out to be giant pieces of steaming poo, but this is where we are. People should demand justice, no matter what "side" is in power. They both have failed, and failed miserably, while more people were sexually abused, and who knows what else (it just keeps getting uglier). They didn't care, they let it go on. They need to pay.

I get it, that's a tall order when so many are guilty, and others are afraid to say anything because it could cost them their life. Don't care, where are the handcuffs. Us serfs should demand no less, and it's one thing they should all be able to agree on. 

The first, the last, and everyone in between. Nothing less is acceptable.

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