CMRivdogs Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago ET Tu Susie, I guess this Trump Derangement Syndrome thing is spreading... Quote
mtutiger Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 42 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Another symptom of TDS is deflecting and going straight to a Hitler comparison. Is Joe McCarthy an acceptable comparison for you, or does that make one afflicted with 'TDS'? Just making sure I have the rules correct Edited 8 hours ago by mtutiger 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: ET Tu Susie, I guess this Trump Derangement Syndrome thing is spreading... Wiles is probably the best thing that's ever happened for Trump's political career post-2020... if she's heading for the exits, yikes Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago So she is still in place as of today? Bizarre. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago She knows where the bodies are buried. Literally Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Is Joe McCarthy an acceptable comparison for you, or does that make one afflicted with 'TDS'? Just making sure I have the rules correct There are parallels between post WWI Germany and the US. Germany is a country that had actually just been badly defeated and felt it, in the US the defeat has been economic across the lower 2/3 of the income spectrum but the discontent over it produces the same sense of political alienation. Culturally both countries had moved into a period of increasing cultural coarseness. And much like then the politics of blaming minorities for larger societal failures has increased traction. Edited 8 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said: Trumpery derives from the Middle English trompery and ultimately from the Middle French tromper, meaning "to deceive." (You can see the meaning of this root reflected in the French phrase trompe-l'oeil-literally, "deceives the eye"-which in English refers to a style of painting with photographically realistic detail.) Trumperyfirst appeared in English in the mid-15th century with the meanings "deceit or fraud" (a sense that is now obsolete) and "worthless nonsense." Less than 100 years later, it was being applied to material objects of little or no value. The verb phrase trump upmeans "to concoct with the intent to deceive," but there is most likely no etymological connection between this phrase and trumpery. Quote
chasfh Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 12 hours ago, oblong said: Wonder what Kirk would have said about Reiners murder if he didn’t get shot. I think you have a pretty good idea of that. Quote
romad1 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago re: Susie Wiles, you can really see the Pat Summerall dna. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago A bit more from Wiles curtesy of The Bullwerk Quote On Trump: He “has an alcoholic’s personality.” On J.D. Vance: His conversion to MAGA was “sort of political,” and he has been “a conspiracy theorist for a decade.” On OMB Director Russ Vought: “a right-wing absolute zealot.” On Elon Musk: “He’s an avowed ketamine [user]. . . . And he’s an odd, odd duck, as I think geniuses are. You know, it’s not helpful, but he is his own person.” On the cuts to USAID: “Elon’s attitude is you have to get it done fast. If you’re an incrementalist, you just won’t get your rocket to the moon,” Wiles said. “And so with that attitude, you’re going to break some china. But no rational person could think the USAID process was a good one. Nobody.” On Kilmar Abrego Garcia being deported against a court order: “I will concede that we’ve got to look harder at our process for deportation.” On deporting a four-year-old was being treated for stage 4 cancer: “I can’t understand how you make that mistake, but somebody did.” On the tariffs: “it’s been more painful than I expected.” On AG Pam Bondi’s handling of the Epstein files: “I think she completely whiffed on appreciating that that was the very targeted group that cared about this.” On the cases against James Comey and Letitia James: “I don’t think he [Trump] wakes up thinking about retribution. But when there’s an opportunity, he will go for it.” On Venezuela: “If he were to authorize some activity on land, then it’s war, then [we’d need] Congress.” (Mark that one down!) On herself: “Not patting myself on the back, but just recognizing the reality of this president at this time . . . I’m just not [sure] who else could do this.” The entire interview is extraordinary, and we encourage people to spend some time reading it in full, as it provides the most unvarnished look at the White House to date. It also gives you a deeply honest, sort of unnerving portrait of Wiles, who sees herself far more as a facilitator for Trump than a check on his worst impulses or even a strategist on his payroll. As she tells Whipple: “I’m not an enabler. I’m also not a bitch. I try to be thoughtful about what I even engage in. I guess time will tell whether I’ve been effective.” https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-psych-ward-presidency-trump-reiner-comments-russia-ukraine-susie-wiles?utm_source=substack&publication_id=87281&post_id=181789992&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=false&r=45wcm&triedRedirect=true Quote
oblong Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, ewsieg said: Another symptom of TDS is deflecting and going straight to a Hitler comparison. It's a deliberate action to avoid going there. They are literally right next to each other. If the shoe fits... in other words there is no middle ground when it comes to fascism. It's not my problem to reconcile. TDS is a myth used to deflect accountability for principals, logic, and decency. Its easier throwing that term around than thinking. 3 3 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 9 minutes ago, oblong said: It's a deliberate action to avoid going there. They are literally right next to each other. If the shoe fits... in other words there is no middle ground when it comes to fascism. It's not my problem to reconcile. TDS is a myth used to deflect accountability for principals, logic, and decency. Its easier throwing that term around than thinking. correct. It's not the laying out of fact and arguing from cause to effect and from actual circumstance to analogy that's indicative of derangement, neither is the strength of advocacy for the real over the false. Quote
LaceyLou Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 20 hours ago, chasfh said: I can't remember whether I have articulated this idea here yet, but I would bet money that reducing the surplus population to ease the demand on finite and dwindling resources is on the bingo cards of some of the people of the MAGA elite. I agree. Yet they also want more babies to be born-although I suspect there are those they'd sterilize without a second thought if they could. And people wonder why I choose to work with animals. 😉 1 Quote
chasfh Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Better than nothing, but that's a super low bar. This is still far less than halfway what it should be. Quote
chasfh Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On 12/15/2025 at 11:22 AM, romad1 said: I mean if he were to show grace even once it would shatter the egos of his followers who are more about the destructive power of the Presidency than noblesse oblige, the sustainment of positive values, or the progress of the human species out of Hobbesian despair. Quote
LaceyLou Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I don't know that I see TDS as a slur, but it's close to it. It reminds me of times when a woman is angry about something and is automatically dismissed with variations of 'it's probably her time of the month.' 1 Quote
romad1 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: while insisting that his supplicants praise him for the colors of the flames. Quote
romad1 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Just now, LaceyLou said: I don't know that I see TDS as a slur, but it's close to it. It reminds me of times when a woman is angry about something and is automatically dismissed with variations of 'it's probably her time of the month.' TDS is a tool of control. Screw anyone who uses it. They should be shunned as shills for the regime. Edited 4 hours ago by romad1 1 Quote
LaceyLou Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, romad1 said: TDS is a tool of control. Screw anyone who uses it. They should be shunned as shills for the regime. ..and a way to isolate cult members from those outside of the cult. 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Anybody else, when really looking forward to something ever count backward to find something that happened the same amount of time in the past as that event in the future you are looking forward to? Anyways... November 11, 2022. Quote
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