2025 MLB Thread

[IdahoBert]

5 hours ago, casimir said:

I'm not ready for autumn/winter.  I want more Tiger games, I want more bike riding, I want more lawn mowing, I want more windows down in the car, I want more short sleeves and shorts.

Move to Tucson. I did that for precisely 13 years on the dot. For seven months it’s pretty special but the five months of summer  can be tough. Not much lawn mowing though everyone has desert friendly dirt yards so you get used to it.

[IdahoBert]

35 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Tony Clark scandal?

 

This is stupendously awful. The “suite address“ was a mailbox at a UPS store? Millions of dollars spent with feather bedding positions for Clark’s daughter? Four clinics held over the years that’s it?

[lordstanley]

1 hour ago, Screwball said:

The difference between a double play and a line drive hit to the outfield and drive in a run, is a small fraction of an in inch, or a millisecond, at the point of contact. Kinda like golf. We all know how that goes. One itty bitty little thing could have changed the entire outcome.

That's the beauty of baseball.

If Brock had slid instead of going in standing up in ‘68, and if IKF had gone in standing up instead of sliding last night, the outcomes of both of those World Series may have been different. 

[Screwball]

Just now, lordstanley said:

If Brock had slid instead of going in standing up in ‘68, and if IKF had gone in standing up instead of sliding last night, the outcomes of both of those World Series may have been different. 

And we could go back to one or two Tiger games, but let's not... 😞

[Tiger337]

46 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Tony Clark scandal?

 

Not his fault.  He got bad advice from Bobby Higginson.  

[oblong]

9 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Not his fault.  He got bad advice from Bobby Higginson.  

He only has scandals when the media is not paying attention

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, casimir said:

I'm not ready for autumn/winter.  I want more Tiger games, I want more bike riding, I want more lawn mowing, I want more windows down in the car, I want more short sleeves and shorts.

You can still have all those things. Well, not the Tiger games and probably not the lawn mowing, but the rest of them, sure, why not. 😉

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, Screwball said:

As one who shut this stuff off years ago, and then got hooked again; I thought the entire playoffs were a really good show. As much as I didn't like how it all ended, it was highly entertaining. Drama, long games, a little bit of everything sit on the end of your seat type stuff.

I'm glad I watched. Bravo to baseball for this one.

Welcome back! Hope to see you in game threads next year.

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, lordstanley said:

If Brock had slid instead of going in standing up in ‘68, and if IKF had gone in standing up instead of sliding last night, the outcomes of both of those World Series may have been different. 

This is a really good point. Sliding slows a runner’s progress into the base. At second and third bases, the main reasons to avoid sliding are to avoid collisions, avoid tags, and keep from oversliding the bag so you don’t get tagged out afterwards.

At home plate, oversliding is not a consideration. On the play Saturday night, IKF would not have collided with Smith, so, the only reason to slide would be to avoid Smith’s tag, and on a force play, tags on the base are very unlikely. So had IKF gone full speed running through the plate, would he have been safe instead of out after slowing down due to the slide?

Edited Monday at 01:47 PM by chasfh

[chasfh]

40 minutes ago, oblong said:

He only has scandals when the media is not paying attention

Which for Bobby Higginson is all the time. I have zero idea what the guy is even doing anymore. Is he still the limo king?

[4hzglory]

17 minutes ago, chasfh said:

This is a really good point. Sliding slows a runner’s progress into the base. At second and third bases, the main reasons to avoid sliding are to avoid collisions, avoid tags, and keep from oversliding the bag so you don’t get tagged out afterwards.

At home plate, oversliding is not a consideration. On the play Saturday night, IKF would not have collided with Smith, so, the only reason to slide would be to avoid Smith’s tag, and on a force play, tags on the base are very unlikely. So had IKF gone full speed running through the plate, would he have been safe instead of out after slowing down due to the slide?

There was an article in the Athletic about how the Jay's conservatism on the base paths likely cost them that series.  They told their guys to stay close to 3rd - IKF was only 7.8 ft off the base compared to Betts being 11.6 ft off in a comparable situation.  That difference also would have made him safe.  And it wasn't just IKF.  Springer was only 8 ft off of 3rd when on.  The Jays were so concerned about getting picked off or doubled up on a liner, they cost themselves the series.  Give me the aggressiveness  with some outs on the base paths over that any day. 

[gehringer_2]

46 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

There was an article in the Athletic about how the Jay's conservatism on the base paths likely cost them that series.  They told their guys to stay close to 3rd - IKF was only 7.8 ft off the base compared to Betts being 11.6 ft off in a comparable situation.  That difference also would have made him safe.  And it wasn't just IKF.  Springer was only 8 ft off of 3rd when on.  The Jays were so concerned about getting picked off or doubled up on a liner, they cost themselves the series.  Give me the aggressiveness  with some outs on the base paths over that any day. 

They were pretty terrible. And it wasn't just short leads, it was every aspect. 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

This is a really good point. Sliding slows a runner’s progress into the base. At second and third bases, the main reasons to avoid sliding are to avoid collisions, avoid tags, and keep from oversliding the bag so you don’t get tagged out afterwards.

At home plate, oversliding is not a consideration. On the play Saturday night, IKF would not have collided with Smith, so, the only reason to slide would be to avoid Smith’s tag, and on a force play, tags on the base are very unlikely. So had IKF gone full speed running through the plate, would he have been safe instead of out after slowing down due to the slide?

I effed up this part and said the opposite of what I meant. What I meant to put into the bold part is this:

The main reasons to slide are to avoid collisions, avoid tags, and keep from oversliding the bag so you don’t get tagged out afterwards.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, 4hzglory said:

There was an article in the Athletic about how the Jay's conservatism on the base paths likely cost them that series.  They told their guys to stay close to 3rd - IKF was only 7.8 ft off the base compared to Betts being 11.6 ft off in a comparable situation.  That difference also would have made him safe.  And it wasn't just IKF.  Springer was only 8 ft off of 3rd when on.  The Jays were so concerned about getting picked off or doubled up on a liner, they cost themselves the series.  Give me the aggressiveness  with some outs on the base paths over that any day. 

I wonder whether, after the end of Game 6 when Barger seemed way too anxious to score like RIGHT NOW by getting too far off the bag on the short fly ball to Hernandez and then getting doubled off second to lose the game? I bet the Jays were taking way shorter leads because that loomed large in their minds and they were over-correcting.

[4hzglory]

15 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I wonder whether, after the end of Game 6 when Barger seemed way too anxious to score like RIGHT NOW by getting too far off the bag on the short fly ball to Hernandez and then getting doubled off second to lose the game? I bet the Jays were taking way shorter leads because that loomed large in their minds and they were over-correcting.

Based on the article, it seems like it was their overall philosophy throughout the season.  It's ironic that Barger did get picked off 2nd considering that.

[lordstanley]

Let’s offer Joey Cora to the Jays in exchange for Trey Yesavage. 

Edited Monday at 04:41 PM by lordstanley

[oblong]

I'm pissed about who isn't on the ballot.

 

[Tenacious D]

Interesting group—the steroid guys (real and suspects).

Is Whitaker in a different designation or grouping?

Does Mattingly get some sympathy votes after missing out on another WS title?

 

 

[Shinzaki]

Closer Edwin Diaz opts out of his deal with the Mets...go get 'em Scott

[Tigermojo]

Gabe Kapler promoted to Marlins GM.

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Closer Edwin Diaz opts out of his deal with the Mets...go get 'em Scott

I could be talked into this. He just walked away from three years and almost 60 million, so anyone who seriously wants to sign him will need to pay way, way more than this. It will probably have to be higher than his 5/102 deal the Mets signed him to.

What are the chances he will want to come to Detroit over the Dodgers or Mets or Yankees or Red Sox or Giants or Cubs?

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

What are the chances he will want to come to Detroit over the Dodgers or Mets or Yankees or Red Sox or Giants or Cubs?

I'd estimate them as approximately equal to the odds the Tigers offer more money than the Mets, Yankees or Red Sox. 🤔

Edited Monday at 11:39 PM by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I'd estimate them as approximately equal to the odds the Tigers offer more money than the Mets, Yankees or Red Sox. 🤔

It would have to be substantially more than one dollar more.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I could be talked into this. He just walked away from three years and almost 60 million, so anyone who seriously wants to sign him will need to pay way, way more than this. It will probably have to be higher than his 5/102 deal the Mets signed him to.

What are the chances he will want to come to Detroit over the Dodgers or Mets or Yankees or Red Sox or Giants or Cubs?

He just left one lof the teams you mentioned.  He is looking for money.  

[lordstanley]