Will Tigers Pony up for Skubal

[Stormin]

7 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

Exactly why the Tigers should trade him now for a kings ransom. Or if he blows out his arm in April.... FML. We are the Angels 2.0.....

The Miggy contract was painful because of his decline and the negative impact on the team. Skubal is in his prime.  There is not a Skubal trade that will make the Tigers better in 2026. The Tigers are in a position to win now.  The Angels with Ohtani were in the midst of a long string of losing seasons. Huge return for one year of Skubal is a theory not based on precedent.

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

There were a lot of reports that the Tigers lowballed him with a non competitive offer.

They really never had any intention of trying to sign him because they weren't going to offer anywhere close to what he would get as a FA and knew he wouldn't sign.

Plus, comments that Skubal has made sure sounds like he doesn't have any faith in the front office and ownership.

Well, maybe not Skubal but many free agents, who were offered contract extensions, take a gamble that theyll stay injury free and that they will put up good numbers, increasing their worth. I'm surprised the Tigers didn’t at least try or offer Skubal a contract. Not that Boras would advise him to sign it but to let him know the risks of possibly losing millions of dollars.

[Sports_Freak]

8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Right, even if Buddha is happy with the amount of imbalance now, if teams start losing guys at 3 yrs, the Tigers wouldn't have made the playoff either of the last two years.

But other teams would also lose guys to free agency after the same 3 years. So yes, we could have lost several players but a huge pool of replacements would be available. At a huge cost, much more expensive, but out there to sign.

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

Exactly why the Tigers should trade him now for a kings ransom. Or if he blows out his arm in April.... FML. We are the Angels 2.0.....

We are not going to get a king's ransom for a single year of Skubal along with $32 million, unless we pick up some of the salary, at which point what the hell are we even doing?

How about an earl's ransom? Would you take an earl's ransom for Skubal? It might not be a king's ransom, but upside, you get Skubal the hell out of town.

[buddha]

49 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

But other teams would also lose guys to free agency after the same 3 years. So yes, we could have lost several players but a huge pool of replacements would be available. At a huge cost, much more expensive, but out there to sign.

if there is a huge pool of players every year, the price per player will be lower.

the superstars will get paid and most other people wont.

[tiger2022]

More like Alcantara, King, and Lugo?

[lordstanley]

10 hours ago, Stormin said:

I am curious how many fans who followed the Tigers from 2017 to 2023,  and watched Miggy become a below average player on an unmovable contract, would actually want the Tigers to sign Skubal to a 10 year deal.

A lot of media folks are still tossing around the 10 year $400M number.  I would think a 10 year contract for a 30 year old pitcher would be a stretch for almost any team and a definite no for the Tigers.

I feel much better about the likely departure of Skubal after next season now that Illitch has shown he will spend good money on Valdez. There will be other Valdezes out there after next season and the year after and hitters too that make more baseball sense to sign than Skubal for 10 years. The depressing thing about Skubal leaving would have been if it meant that the Tigers were super cheap, had no intention of trying to fill the gap created except from within, and that Illitch was going to run this like a small market team. If he runs a mid-market payroll, fine with me. Offer Skubal 5x$50mm and if he says no then so be it.

Edited 5 hours ago by lordstanley

[RatkoVarda]

I do not want the Tigers to sign Skubal to a 10/400 deal. It is likely the last few years could be ugly, perhaps very ugly, and the Tigers cannot risk having 40M+ in dead money on their books. That is a risk the bigger markets can take. 5 x 50 does not get it done, but I would try, and then watch him walk.

[Stormin]

A good percentage of the media "experts" saying the Tigers should trade Skubal view Detroit as losers.  If Skubal were on the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, ...   would these experts be pushing for a Skubal trade? 

[tiger2022]

Nobody outside of Detroit cares about Detroit.  

It's not any different than me not caring about Colorado or Baltimore.

For the record, I don't care about Bosto , New York etc

[Jason_R]

4 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Well, maybe not Skubal but many free agents, who were offered contract extensions, take a gamble that theyll stay injury free and that they will put up good numbers, increasing their worth. I'm surprised the Tigers didn’t at least try or offer Skubal a contract. Not that Boras would advise him to sign it but to let him know the risks of possibly losing millions of dollars.

Who says the Tigers didn’t offer him a contract? Based on everything I have read, they did and he declined it. 

Also, based on the salary committed to Valdez, it would be very hard to believe that the Tigers offered anything less to Skubal, and they almost certainly offered him something more. But Boras seems to have pegged Skubal’s value around 10/$400 million, which is a long way from the neighborhood that Detroit was probably playing in. If 10/$400 million is the price, I don’t want Detroit to pay it, especially having witnessed the last few years of Cabrera’s contract. 

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, lordstanley said:

I feel much better about the likely departure of Skubal after next season now that Illitch has shown he will spend good money on Valdez. There will be other Valdezes out there after next season and the year after and hitters too that make more baseball sense to sign than Skubal for 10 years. The depressing thing about Skubal leaving would have been if it meant that the Tigers were super cheap, had no intention of trying to fill the gap created except from within, and that Illitch was going to run this like a small market team. If he runs a mid-market payroll, fine with me. Offer Skubal 5x$50mm and if he says no then so be it.

I’m not a fan of making offers you know the player is going to turn down. I think it’s a bad look.

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Stormin said:

A good percentage of the media "experts" saying the Tigers should trade Skubal view Detroit as losers.  If Skubal were on the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, ...   would these experts be pushing for a Skubal trade? 

I kind of don’t blame them, given that the Tigers have not only not yet established themselves as consistent winners, but had also had a thin record post-Dombrowski when it came to signing and retaining top talent. Heck even now, a healthy percentage, if not the majority, of posters here want to trade Skubal today, just so we don’t risk him shoving our faces in the snow on the way out.

We could be at the turning point now. Wouldn’t that be loverly!