6/10/25 6:35PM Tigers @ Orioles

[IdahoBert]

Reds beat the Guardians. 

Rangers are beating Minn 10–4 in the seventh

NYY beating KC 10-2 in the 6th

White Sox leading Houston 4-1 in the 6th

[gehringer_2]

Saw Olson sitting with the other starters, no dressing or anything on his finger so that's good. Bad thing is that he's there at all instead of starting an MiLB game.....

[IdahoBert]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Saw Olson sitting with the other starters, no dressing or anything on his finger so that's good. Bad thing is that he's there at all instead of starting an MiLB game.....

Imagine when we get back to the point where we don’t have to have openers. 

[chasfh]

38 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Chase Lee gets the win? Really?

Chase Lee got the win because he was the pitcher of record when the Tigers took the lead they never relinquished.

[IdahoBert]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Chase Lee got the win because he was the pitcher of record when the Tigers took the lead they never relinquished.

That makes sense, it being a lead never relinquished, so it doesn’t make any difference that the winning runs were actually scored when Gipson-Long was pitching. 

[gehringer_2]

Hurter for Guenther swap by tomorrow's game?

[Shelton]

No. Why?

[Tiger337]

Sheltlon, Is that Mr Biggleworth who signed up for the site earlier the Mr Bigglesworth?

[Sports_Freak]

31 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Chase Lee got the win because he was the pitcher of record when the Tigers took the lead they never relinquished.

That's why I questioned the Tigers win on June 1st. (I don't know how to link the box score) I felt Holton should have gotten the win as the pitcher of record. But the truth is that both of these games wins were awarded by the official scorer, the guy he thought pitched most effectively. I really don't agree with either, but it doesn't really matter. They're victories 

[IdahoBert]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Sheltlon, Is that Mr Biggleworth who signed up for the site earlier the Mr Bigglesworth?

I was wondering about that too. 

[IdahoBert]

The Tigers now lead Minnesota by 8 games, Cleveland by 9 games, and Kansas City by 9.5. And all three of these teams have records above .500 They are not bottom feeders. This is pretty satisfying.

[oblong]

My wife watches every game with me now. 

[gehringer_2]

49 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

I was wondering about that too. 

well my memory is not very good, I'd forgotten that Biggs left us  before the old board shut down.

Edited Wednesday at 03:21 AM by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

well my memory is not very good, I'd forgotten that Biggs left us  before the old board shut down.

I think he and Shelton left at around the same time.  

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

OK...laundry chute. I was told the reason they don't have them in new builds is they're not to code. Like a fire hazard.

Fire Hazard? I guess if your neighbors are in the habit of tossing Molitov cocktails in yours. They were made of metal - at least as fire resistant as the wall of the frame house. I can believe it though, the more codes I've run into in recent years the more I'm convinced the system is basically out of control.

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I think he and Shelton left at around the same time.  

Tigers get good and we might see a lot of change. Whenever I look recently the lurker numbers are pretty big.

[TigerNation]

2 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

Meadows is in a funk. I hope he can get out of it soon.

15% BB rate and a 15% K rate. His performance is nothing but encouraging.

[Tiger337]

17 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Tigers get good and we might see a lot of change. Whenever I look recently the lurker numbers are pretty big.

That probably won't be great for the discussion, but it will probably be good for the site and help keep it funded. 

Edman's going to be scolding everyone though.  

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:53 AM by Tiger337

[SoCalTiger]

Detroit Tigers hinting down their prey at an impressive rate. Soild and deep roster playing with passion under good leadership. So happy we finally got here.

[IdahoBert]

5 hours ago, TigerNation said:

15% BB rate and a 15% K rate. His performance is nothing but encouraging.

When he starts hitting them where they ain’t as well as into the seats, that’ll be nice. 

[IdahoBert]

6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Tigers get good and we might see a lot of change. Whenever I look recently the lurker numbers are pretty big.

A lot of these lurkers, though, are search bots. The same was true on the old site. Nobody’s really going back and looking at four year old discussions of spring training. I just checked 3 IPS and they were from Vietnam, Ecuador, and Argentina.

A bot in Brasília was just now looking at a thread called “revisiting cargo shorts.“ No human being, thankfully, is that bored. 

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

That makes sense, it being a lead never relinquished, so it doesn’t make any difference that the winning runs were actually scored when Gipson-Long was pitching. 

Remember the game-winning RBI, which was supposed to reward the most valuable run batter in for the game? They used the same principle for that. If a team took a first inning lead on a home run, scored eight more to lead 9-0, then gave up eight but held on for the 9-8 win, that first home run was granted the GWRBI for the game.

Yeah, it didn’t make any actual sense for that, either.

[oblong]

right... Rusty Kuntz had the GWRBI in game 5 of the '84 world series.  Not Gibby's 2 homers. Not Lance's HR.  It was Rusty's fly ball to "deep 2nd" that made the difference.

 

[chasfh]

8 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

That's why I questioned the Tigers win on June 1st. (I don't know how to link the box score) I felt Holton should have gotten the win as the pitcher of record. But the truth is that both of these games wins were awarded by the official scorer, the guy he thought pitched most effectively. I really don't agree with either, but it doesn't really matter. They're victories 

That’s true of the June 1 1-0 over the Royals because of the inexplicable orthodoxy that the win must be awarded to a relief pitcher if the start doesn’t go at least five, even if the starter was far and away the most effective pitcher of the game. That’s where awarding the win is completely within the scorer’s discretion. That’s one of the crazier scoring rules in baseball, right up there with walks don’t matter in batting averages.

Last night was different in that there was no discretion at hand. MLB rule 9.17(a) stipulates that “The Official Scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, unless (1) such pitcher is a starting pitcher and Rule 9.17(b) applies; or (2) Rule 9.17(c) applies (i.e., the effective pitcher discretion ruling).” 

[chasfh]

7 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

Detroit Tigers hinting down their prey at an impressive rate. Soild and deep roster playing with passion under good leadership. So happy we finally got here.

Agreed, and the interesting part of this post is that I don’t think anyone would have accused us of having a solid and deep roster before the season started.

I do wonder how much of the depth of roster has to do with guys simply becoming the best players they could possibly be; with the coaching and development staff guiding the players to make the most of their abilities; and the manager deploying the players in just the right way that leads to optimum outcomes. What’s the mix at hand?