2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[RandyMarsh]

I wonder if the Red Sox would entertain the thought of trading Giolito? He pitched another good game today bringing his season ERA down to 3.99. While that isn't great it is worth noting that he gave up 19 runs in 3 disaster starts but in the other 9 he only gave up 7 total. I can live with some blowout starts if you are giving up under 2 runs the other 75% of your starts. 

[HugoD]

On 6/26/2025 at 8:52 AM, tiger2022 said:

Might as well rush him to the majors too.  He played most of last season in A ball and did okay, but he is 23 with 60 games this season in AA.   Getting rid of Tork and bringing him up way before he is ready sounds like a disaster for the rest of the season and for the years ahead.

Yeah, maybe Tork is “coming back down to earth”, but he’s still likely to hit 30 bombs.  I’m definitely OK with that, plus he does seem to have improved his approach.  As someone recently said about QBs, you can always do worse, which rushing Anderson would be imo.

[HugoD]

Also, Tork’s babip is .254, which is below average despite decent EV and good barrel rates.  Basically,  his results seem sustainable and likely to improve.  Hope I’m not jinxing him 😀

[RatkoVarda]

16 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

I'm going to say that if Harris made any offer for Hayes, it would be accepted immediately. He's really horrible at the plate; multiple back injuries have robbed him of the below average power he did have; he is at Baez level from last year, 62 RC+. Owed $36 million over the next 4 years to give you great defense and nothing else. Rather spend that money on a BP arm. Hard pass unless the elite D holds some special lure for Harris and AJ.

[SoCalTiger]

Not so sure we need a bat or starter. Wouldn’t give up much for either that’s for sure. What we need is two dependable relievers. 

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

Not so sure we need a bat or starter. Wouldn’t give up much for either that’s for sure. What we need is two dependable relievers. 

At this point I'm guessing we are going to see Lange far enough ahead of the deadline to get an evaluation. He has made 4 rehab appearances, 4 IP, 4H 7K 1BB. If he keeps controlling the walks through a few more outings I don't see why they wouldn't bring him up ---and Hurter can't be more than one more bad outing from being sent down.

[Tiger337]

With the depth of their roster, there is not much reason to acquire a postion player unless he's a star.  I think they will acquire pitching help especially relievers.  I would never rule out acquiring a starter though.  You can never ever have too much pitching.  

[gehringer_2]

38 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

With the depth of their roster, there is not much reason to acquire a postion player unless he's a star.  I think they will acquire pitching help especially relievers.  I would never rule out acquiring a starter though.  You can never ever have too much pitching.  

Likelihood of seeing Cobb this season sure appears to be slipping away.

[Shinzaki]

Anderson is 23 years old and has almost a 1000 AB's of MiLB experience after playing college ball.  I would hardly call bringing him up this season rushing him.

I'm not suggesting we jump at the chance to move on from Tork...but if the opprtunity comes to make a big swing at a quality SP and he's part of the ask...I would strongly consider it

Edited Sunday at 04:02 AM by Shinzaki

[1984Echoes]

5 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

With the depth of their roster, there is not much reason to acquire a position player unless ...

Also... 

I think two of the most likely candidates to be called up (IMO), if they are looking for an IF fix, are Hao Yu Lee and/or Max Anderson. I don't see a need for a position player trade either.

Unless...

5 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

... unless he's a star...

Austin Riley?

[1984Echoes]

4 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Anderson is 23 years old and has almost a 1000 AB's of MiLB experience after playing college ball.  I would hardly call bringing him up this season rushing him...

This. 

 

4 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

...but if the opportunity comes to make a big swing at a quality SP and he's part of the ask... I would strongly consider (trading Tork).

I'm on board with this.

[holygoat]

22 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

Is this as lazy a take as it seems to me? Why would the Tigers want an all-glove/no-stick 3B when we have Z-Mac, Matty V, Javeer and Colt on the current roster? All of them are adequate defenders, and all of them provide far better offense. I mean, who are you sending down to make room for Hayes? Bregman and Suarez make sense for Detroit. Hayes makes zero sense.

[RandyMarsh]

To me at least 1 high level reliever and another dependable starter are the biggest needs. Yeah our current starting pitching situation isn't terrible but I want to have as many options as possible come October and I would feel alot more comfortable having at least 1 more guy. 

If I knew for sure Olson would be healthy and pitching like he is capable of, Mize was being reliable and Flaherty was pitching like the good version of himself then sure we wouldn't need one but history suggests the likelihood of that happening is slim.

More likely than not at least 1 or 2 of those guys is either going to be struggling or hurt which as it stands would mean we'd have to potentially have 2 or more games in a series with either a struggling pitcher, "pitching chaos" or somebody like Montero or SGL.

I don't like that at all, by getting another reliable guy it would at least mitigate those chances, if everything works out and all those ideal situations happen like I mentioned above then you have the luxury of moving somebody like Mize/Flaherty/Olson or the acquired pitcher to the pen. 

Edited Sunday at 07:47 PM by RandyMarsh

[Longgone]

17 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Anderson is 23 years old and has almost a 1000 AB's of MiLB experience after playing college ball.  I would hardly call bringing him up this season rushing him.

I'm not suggesting we jump at the chance to move on from Tork...but if the opprtunity comes to make a big swing at a quality SP and he's part of the ask...I would strongly consider it

Big jump from AA to the bigs

[Tiger337]

8 minutes ago, Longgone said:

Big jump from AA to the bigs

Yes and it seems a lot harder than it used to be.

[tiger2022]

19 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Anderson is 23 years old and has almost a 1000 AB's of MiLB experience after playing college ball.  I would hardly call bringing him up this season rushing him.

I'm not suggesting we jump at the chance to move on from Tork...but if the opprtunity comes to make a big swing at a quality SP and he's part of the ask...I would strongly consider it

Teams dont trade a guy who will hit 30+ homers during a playoff run to get a player at another position.  

[chasfh]

The Tigers are not trading for Ke’Bryan Hayes, Alex Bregman, or any other third baseman. We are #10 in the majors in WAR at third base. If we’re trading for a position player at all, it’s a shortstop, and with Javy having his resurgence, getting most of the starts at shortstop now and coming off his best month of the season so far, we’re not trading for a shortstop, either. We are set for position players.

We are obviously going after shutdown relief help, and whether we go for a starter is going to depend in large part how Reese Olson is doing in three or so weeks. He’s back in the next week and should have three starts before we have to start thinking about burning up the phone lines for a starter. If he’s back and strong, we probably won’t feel the need to trade for starting pitching. 

[chasfh]

On 6/29/2025 at 2:46 PM, RandyMarsh said:

To me at least 1 high level reliever and another dependable starter are the biggest needs. Yeah our current starting pitching situation isn't terrible but I want to have as many options as possible come October and I would feel alot more comfortable having at least 1 more guy. 

If I knew for sure Olson would be healthy and pitching like he is capable of, Mize was being reliable and Flaherty was pitching like the good version of himself then sure we wouldn't need one but history suggests the likelihood of that happening is slim.

More likely than not at least 1 or 2 of those guys is either going to be struggling or hurt which as it stands would mean we'd have to potentially have 2 or more games in a series with either a struggling pitcher, "pitching chaos" or somebody like Montero or SGL.

I don't like that at all, by getting another reliable guy it would at least mitigate those chances, if everything works out and all those ideal situations happen like I mentioned above then you have the luxury of moving somebody like Mize/Flaherty/Olson or the acquired pitcher to the pen. 

Teams basically need three good starters to get through the playoffs, right? Given all the off days then, I think most teams going deep spread the vast majority of their starts among their top three. Our top two are Skubal and Flaherty. Yeah, Flaherty is not particularly good lately, or even this whole year, but unless he has an abject collapse, he’s pitching Game 2 of the ALDS.

So, after Skubal and Flaherty, it comes down to Olson and Mize to fill the #3 and spot starter roles, depending on how each do in September. Only if one of them gets hurt or falls off a cliff after August 1 will we be in serious trouble in the rotation. So, unless either Olson or Mize come up lame at the end of this month, we’re not trading for starting pitching, either.

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Teams basically need three good starters to get through the playoffs, right? Given all the off days then, I think most teams going deep spread the vast majority of their starts among their top three. Our top two are Skubal and Flaherty. Yeah, Flaherty is not particularly good lately, or even this whole year, but unless he has an abject collapse, he’s pitching Game 2 of the ALDS.

So, after Skubal and Flaherty, it comes down to Olson and Mize to fill the #3 and spot starter roles, depending on how each do in September. Only if one of them gets hurt or falls off a cliff after August 1 will we be in serious trouble in the rotation. So, unless either Olson or Mize come up lame at the end of this month, we’re not trading for starting pitching, either.

Mize has outpitched Flaherty, who I believe is our 4th SP (if Olsen is healthy).

And I do see the Tigers upgrading from Jones, if not cost-prohibitive.  Getting a proven RH outfielder would be a nice hedge for injuries and complement to our LH hitters.

Bullpen is going to be the focus, though.

[chasfh]

7 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Mize has outpitched Flaherty, who I believe is our 4th SP (if Olsen is healthy).

And I do see the Tigers upgrading from Jones, if not cost-prohibitive.  Getting a proven RH outfielder would be a nice hedge for injuries and complement to our LH hitters.

Bullpen is going to be the focus, though.

They shouldn’t have to give up much for a lefty-killer on the bench.

I gotta believe as a World Series champ from just last season, and especially since his underlying numbers are better than his results, Flaherty has a very wide berth before he gets knocked out of the #2 spot for October.

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

They shouldn’t have to give up much for a lefty-killer on the bench.

I gotta believe as a World Series champ from just last season, and especially since his underlying numbers are better than his results, Flaherty has a very wide berth before he gets knocked out of the #2 spot for October.

I wasn’t thinking of a Ibanez-type, but a legit 4th OF/DH type that could play full-time, if necessary.  Marcell Ozuna?

[1984Echoes]

Does Hao-Yu Lee get a chance at that?

Small sample sizes...

but against lefties in AAA this year: .885 OPS

and against lefties in AA last year: .968 OPS

I thought it would be worth it right about now to at least give him a chance to see if he could be an Ibanez this year...

He's played 3B this year (offset to Keith there) and 2B and SS so he can move around a bit...

Just a thought...

[Tenacious D]

I don’t want to block Lee, but I’d rather get a proven veteran.  

Playoff experience a plus.

[1984Echoes]

The veterans I want to get are:

Jacob DeGrom, Aroldis Chapman, and Mason Miller.

I'm not asking for the moon or anything...

[1984Echoes]

Some additional thoughts on those guys (I had this in another thread... but it was yesterday's game thread and this post is trade related... specifically thoughts on DeGrom/ Chapman/ Miller...):

 

I think the biggest bang for the buck on the pitching side...

Meaning lowest trade cost but highest impact... is to trade for an older veteran who still has some dominance.

The Rangers are struggling: Jacob DeGrom.

I don't think the Rangers get near what it would cost for Garret Crochet or Joe Ryan. Just a guess. Sale would be costly (in prospect terms)... but what if a team wanted to contend next year after flopping out this year... could we include Mize or Montero for Sale or DeGrom and not spend much in prospect capital? 

Just some thoughts.

And I would prefer a 1-2 punch of Skubal-DeGrom with Olson/ Flaherty at the back-end than Skubal-Mize-Flaherty-Olson... especially in the playoffs. And/or the World Series.

But that's just me.

Same thing on the reliever side. Aroldis Chapman should cost significantly less than Mason Miller in prospect capital.

I would like to get them both however.

Can we send Tyler Mattison (Miller-wannabe-who-will-probably-never-be...) to the A's for Miller? Maybe they could "fix him up" to be a pale replacement for him? Plus additional pieces as necessary?

Just spit-ballin'...