2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[1984Echoes]

2 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

I don’t want Clark or McGonigle dealt.  I think they were both built for Comerica and are going to be special.  Right behind them is Briceno, but apparently there might be some flaws in his game.  A clear cut defensive position is certainly one.

Anyone else can be had—and our top 10-15 prospects are not fodder.  We have depth we can trade from without compromising any sustained future success.

This would be my belief as well.

[ICroupier]

I want DeGrom and Bednar. 
 

I don't have any confidence come playoff time if we can't land a true #2. Mize has been very good, and I'm fine with him as a #3. But Flaherty has been too inconsistent and far too hittable at times to be trusted. And Olson is too unproven to be counted on in the high pressure playoffs.

I'd be willing to trade Liranzo, Hamm, + for DeGrom. And then Lee+ for Bednar. I'd be willing to move others for another bullpen arm if Lange is out again.

 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, ICroupier said:

Olson is too unproven to be counted on in the high pressure playoffs.

Reese at least has already done pretty will under playoff pressure. Two starts last fall -  9 IP, 2ER 8K. ERA 2.00. No decisions. They lost both games after Reese had left the mound.

[ICroupier]

17 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

 They lost both games after Reese had left the mound.

And do you trust this year's bullpen to win those games? Because I sure don't. 

Having our SP keeping us in games is not good enough in the playoffs. We need starters who are going to go out and win those games. And right now, we only have 1 pitcher who can do that. We absolutely need another if we have any chance at a title.

[TigerNation]

32 minutes ago, ICroupier said:

And do you trust this year's bullpen to win those games? Because I sure don't. 

Having our SP keeping us in games is not good enough in the playoffs. We need starters who are going to go out and win those games. And right now, we only have 1 pitcher who can do that. We absolutely need another if we have any chance at a title.

I trust this years offense to win those games.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, ICroupier said:

I want DeGrom and Bednar. 
 

I don't have any confidence come playoff time if we can't land a true #2. Mize has been very good, and I'm fine with him as a #3. But Flaherty has been too inconsistent and far too hittable at times to be trusted. And Olson is too unproven to be counted on in the high pressure playoffs.

I'd be willing to trade Liranzo, Hamm, + for DeGrom. And then Lee+ for Bednar. I'd be willing to move others for another bullpen arm if Lange is out again.

 

My favorite part of this post is how you made Lee the highlight of the trade for the best available controllable reliever on the market just hours after Lee disintegrated on the mound. Here’s hoping the Pirates’ front office sees it your way. 🥂

[RatkoVarda]

Hao-Yu Lee

[ICroupier]

9 hours ago, TigerNation said:

I trust this years offense to win those games.

The difference between this year's offense and last year's offense is less than 1 run per game.

We didn't lose many games by .5 runs last year, so not sure the offense is going to save the day, either.

[ICroupier]

39 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Hao-Yu Lee

Yes, my intent was Hao-yu, not Chase.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

Hao-Yu Lee

He seems to be the most expendable of the upper-tier prospects, although I'd like to be assured that Bryce Rainer is going to be OK before we offer up Hao-Yu in trade.

[Tenacious D]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

He seems to be the most expendable of the upper-tier prospects, although I'd like to be assured that Bryce Rainer is going to be OK before we offer up Hao-Yu in trade.

Apples and oranges.  Rainer can stick at SS—Lee likely 2B or 3B.  I’d lump Lee with Jung, Keith.  Maybe McGonigle, too, if they ultimately decide he’s not a SS.

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, Tenacious D said:

...  I’d lump Lee with Jung, Keith... McGonigle, 

And Max Anderson.

[Tiger337]

4 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

Hao-Yu Lee

I'm fine.  

[CaliforniaDreaming]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I'm fine.  

Watch it, that kind of joke could get you fired.
Sincerely, 
Jack Morris

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, CaliforniaDreaming said:

Watch it, that kind of joke could get you fired.
Sincerely, 
Jack Morris

I don't know.  That's how his name is pronounced.  It's not like I am using an Asian stereotype or slur.  

[Shinzaki]

It's not like you called him Little Lord F**k Pants.

It's going to take more than 2B prospect Lee to get Bednar.  Maybe Max Anderson and Hamm

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, Shinzaki said:

It's not like you called him Little Lord F**k Pants.

 

No politics here

[ICroupier]

40 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

It's not like you called him Little Lord F**k Pants.

It's going to take more than 2B prospect Lee to get Bednar.  Maybe Max Anderson and Hamm

That's why I said Lee+. 

I'm not opposed to trading Hamm, per se, but not in a 2-for-1 for a RP.

Lee is ranked higher than Hamm, but I'd be more willing to trade a highly ranked MI vs. a SP. Maybe Lee-Montalvo gets it done?

[monkeytargets39]

I can’t believe anyone takes that skenes offer idea seriously.  Talk about setting our franchise back another 15 years…..

[RatkoVarda]

1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I can’t believe anyone takes that skenes offer idea seriously.  Talk about setting our franchise back another 15 years…..

there's a universe where the Tigers get Skenes, make the playoffs the next 5 years, winning 4 pennants and 3 World Series.

[TigerNation]

10 hours ago, ICroupier said:

The difference between this year's offense and last year's offense is less than 1 run per game.

We didn't lose many games by .5 runs last year, so not sure the offense is going to save the day, either.

Do you think any pitching additions will result in our pitching staff giving up one full run a game less over the course of a season?

[ICroupier]

1 hour ago, TigerNation said:

Do you think any pitching additions will result in our pitching staff giving up one full run a game less over the course of a season?

Why would we measure a single pitcher's impact on the full team's runs allowed per game, and why would we measure it over the course of the season? This makes zero sense and has absolutely no bearing on the topic.

We're talking about a pitcher who can be a difference maker in Game 2 of a playoff series and win us the game vs. keep us in a game. That's the only question that matters.

And the answer to that question is yes. DeGrom.

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, ICroupier said:

Why would we measure a single pitcher's impact on the full team's runs allowed per game, and why would we measure it over the course of the season? This makes zero sense and has absolutely no bearing on the topic.

We're talking about a pitcher who can be a difference maker in Game 2 of a playoff series and win us the game vs. keep us in a game. That's the only question that matters.

And the answer to that question is yes. DeGrom.

All pitchers today are ticking time bombs, DeGrom takes it to another level. He may help a team win a WS, he may blow out his arm for the 4th and final time tomorrow.

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

there's a universe where the Tigers get Skenes, make the playoffs the next 5 years, winning 4 pennants and 3 World Series.

Yes, there is.  That's why I don't think the proposal is completely nuts.  It's not the direction I want them to go in though.  I like that they finally have a young successful team and a system which seems primed to pump talent into the majors for years to come.  I've been waiting for this since the 80s.  I don't want to see them give that up for one great pitcher who could have a career altering injury at any time.  

[buddha]

3 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

there's a universe where the Tigers get Skenes, make the playoffs the next 5 years, winning 4 pennants and 3 World Series.

there's also a universe where we have two hall of fame starters in their prime and get swept by the giants.  😞