2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[papalawrence]

32 minutes ago, buddha said:

there's also a universe where we have two hall of fame starters in their prime and get swept by the giants.  😞

 

Dang it! I had that memory 97% repressed......and now I'm back to 0%!!

And it brings back big papi's slam and bird steals the ball. 

[buddha]

one thing is for sure, there's no way i'm giving up two top ten prospects for a star player.  can you imagine giving up miller AND maybin?  no way.

[monkeytargets39]

4 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

there's a universe where the Tigers get Skenes, make the playoffs the next 5 years, winning 4 pennants and 3 World Series.

There’s also a universe where the Tigers have won 124 straight world series’ and Brandon Dixon was the WS MVP in one of them.

[papalawrence]

22 minutes ago, buddha said:

one thing is for sure, there's no way i'm giving up two top ten prospects for a star player.  can you imagine giving up miller AND maybin?  no way.

But the trade proposed 2 top 10, plus Jobe and other pieces. This trade would greatly Trump what Det gave up for Miggy and Dontelle

[gehringer_2]

39 minutes ago, buddha said:

one thing is for sure, there's no way i'm giving up two top ten prospects for a star player.  can you imagine giving up miller AND maybin?  no way.

If Maybin hadn't suffered so many injuries, that trade might look a little less lopsided. Be that as it may, if you look at a trade today - it's the pitcher who is much less likely to be able to stay on the field, so even though the Marlins had bad luck with Maybin's health, today the odds are the team getting the pitcher is more at risk.

[Cruzer1]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

one thing is for sure, there's no way i'm giving up two top ten prospects for a star player.  can you imagine giving up miller AND maybin?  no way.

It also depends on the contract. Can't give up too much for a rental.

[Tiger337]

4 hours ago, papalawrence said:

But the trade proposed 2 top 10, plus Jobe and other pieces. This trade would greatly Trump what Det gave up for Miggy and Dontelle

It should.  Cabrera was very close to free agency when the deal was made, so that's not a good comp.  Skenes has four more years.  His trade value may be unprecedented.  I don't see how you can get him without trading two top prospects and then some.  

[alex]

I think one player/RP the Tigers could look into, as could many other teams, is David Robertson. He was pretty good last year, has a history on winning teams and would NOT cost any prospect capital.

Edited Friday at 12:28 PM by alex

[RatkoVarda]

i want a pitcher who is good enough to cost prospect capital, significant prospect capital

actually, I want 2 pitchers who cost significant prospect capital

[RatkoVarda]

if they get Bednar and LHP Dylan Lee from Atlanta, the bullpen would be a strength

[romad1]

My memory of April 2008 was that I thought the Marlins had traded us two problem alcoholics for all our best prospects. 

When game 163 came around in 2009, Miggy was having some sort of problem prior to that game that he had to apologize for.  So, while a great player...he was a tinderbox that maybe the Marlins thought he needed to be sent out of Miami.  Dontrelle also was dealing with things and ultimately he could not return to his previous effectiveness. 

[4hzglory]

I know it’s not a desperate need, but I’d offer Cleveland 3 of Keith and our top 5 plus Any pitching prospect not named Melton (I think he’ll be needed this year) for Ramirez. 
 

I wouldn’t do that for Skenes or anyone else, but he’d be well worth it IMO.

[papalawrence]

7 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

I know it’s not a desperate need, but I’d offer Cleveland 3 of Keith and our top 5 plus Any pitching prospect not named Melton (I think he’ll be needed this year) for Ramirez. 
 

I wouldn’t do that for Skenes or anyone else, but he’d be well worth it IMO.

Ramirez has 5/10 so he could veto any trade. He took much less money to stay in Cleveland so I don't see him leaving. But I agree, I'd love to have him in Detroit

[romad1]

oh yeah...2009 Miggy was still a work in progress

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2009/10/police_called_during_tigers_sl.html

[buddha]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

My memory of April 2008 was that I thought the Marlins had traded us two problem alcoholics for all our best prospects. 

When game 163 came around in 2009, Miggy was having some sort of problem prior to that game that he had to apologize for.  So, while a great player...he was a tinderbox that maybe the Marlins thought he needed to be sent out of Miami.  Dontrelle also was dealing with things and ultimately he could not return to his previous effectiveness. 

the marlins traded miggy because they couldnt afford him.

you would probably be surprised at how many of those guys are functional alcoholics.  at least they used to be.  a friend of mine used to own a bar in royal oak and had all sorts of stories about miggy, maggs, all those guys and their alcohol use/abuse and the women that were all over them.

its good to be a multi-millionaire athletic freak.  lol.

[buddha]

the stories of a lot of the 84 tigers are....interesting.

[4hzglory]

1 hour ago, papalawrence said:

Ramirez has 5/10 so he could veto any trade. He took much less money to stay in Cleveland so I don't see him leaving. But I agree, I'd love to have him in Detroit

Yes, it's doubtful he would.  It's also doubtful Cleveland would do it.  

 

[oblong]

9 minutes ago, buddha said:

the marlins traded miggy because they couldnt afford him.

you would probably be surprised at how many of those guys are functional alcoholics.  at least they used to be.  a friend of mine used to own a bar in royal oak and had all sorts of stories about miggy, maggs, all those guys and their alcohol use/abuse and the women that were all over them.

its good to be a multi-millionaire athletic freak.  lol.

my friend was hit on by a drunk member of the Tigers around 2011-2012 in Royal Oak.  

She filmed him.  I saw it.   She didn't know who it was so that's why I saw it.

He's still "around" so to speak but I believe he's not like that anymore.

 

[Tiger337]

20 minutes ago, buddha said:

the stories of a lot of the 84 tigers are....interesting.

I was at the hotel the team was staying at one year.  One prominent pitcher from that squad was hitting on women all over the place.  Others were likely more discrete.  

[oblong]

speaking of Cabrera's issues.... he's finally getting a divorce.

[romad1]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

the stories of a lot of the 84 tigers are....interesting.

I had some direct testimony on that from an Air Force colleague who waited tables in Lakeland during the 80’s.  

[romad1]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

the marlins traded miggy because they couldnt afford him.

you would probably be surprised at how many of those guys are functional alcoholics.  at least they used to be.  a friend of mine used to own a bar in royal oak and had all sorts of stories about miggy, maggs, all those guys and their alcohol use/abuse and the women that were all over them.

its good to be a multi-millionaire athletic freak.  lol.

I think it was a known issue with both players.  When i say known issue it means it’s a problem.  

[romad1]

Speaking of the “bad stories about OBT” theme…. 

My mentally handicapped brother asserts that he saw Craig Monroe at Comerica on Tuesday night. 

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, oblong said:

speaking of Cabrera's issues.... he's finally getting a divorce.

Nothing worse for a bad relationship than having more time to spend together!

[oblong]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

Nothing worse for a bad relationship than having more time to spend together!

That is/was a thing for MLB players.  I remember an article in SI back when they were legitimate.  You spend 10-20 years married but never see each other for half the year.  Then you retire and find out "We don't really like each other...." or at least "I don't like this life...."