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46 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

What’s Atlanta doing?  They are so out of it and have many valuable pieces.  I haven’t heard many of their guys mentioned in deals.

The best thing Atlanta can do for their club is fire Snitker. 

Posted
1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

no idea if Manning ever had any real trade value; now he has none

Probably DFA’ed Manning because the Twins, Braves, and Guardians wouldn’t take him even as a throw in.

I also have wondered for some time whether Manning is simply a drag to coach and/or to just be around. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

The impact bats certainly don't seem to be there (outside of Suarez, but that ship has sailed), which is unfortunate. We certainly could use one. That and an elite BP arm is what we needed IMO. I'm not all that thrilled about the third/fourth starters that are available (which is what I consider Alcantara at this point), or these donkey relievers we keep signing/trading for.

Nolan Aranedo may be available. He has a no trade clause though. And he's been in a pretty bad slump. And he's old. But he would be an upgrade, if he were cheap enough.

Posted
Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

I say go for Keller since he’s under control for several years, and with Jobe/Olson out for the year and Flaherty being hit or miss—I’d like the ML experience depth there.  Hopefully Melton can build off that last start and Paddack can be consistent, but we need a #3 guy right now.  There’s no more help coming in the system and going into the playoffs with Skub/Mize/Flaherty/Paddack isn’t super ideal.

I disagree. You can absolutely navigate the playoffs rotation wise as currently constructed. Three solid starters is more than enough. Of the priorities, I consider a starter well behind elite BP and impact bat.

Posted

Padres are looking for a Catcher. Could they pry Adley Rutschman from Baltimore? I could see them doing a Cease for Rutschman type deal and some prospects. Adley's underlying numbers show that he's do to be a monster the 2nd half of the year. Just extreme bad luck this year is producing his poor numbers......  Although I guess Joey Bart is also out there.... Will be interesting for them as I don't know too many teams that need a Catcher at the moment. 

Posted
30 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

SD trades #3 overall prospect De Vries (+ 3 more) to get Miller and Sears. So it would have had to have been Clark or McGonigle going  out if Harris wanted Miller.

This might move the last-day market toward sellers and have the effect of increasing the price for Bednar. 

Posted
29 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

De Vries could be a Bobby Witt Jr Clone..... Crazy. Even for Mason Miller. 

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&type=8&sortcol=20&sortdir=default&stats=rel&pagenum=1 - According to this, Miller is ranked 29th in baseball for WAR this season..... Heck even Vest is higher than him! Lets move Vest straight up for De Vries..... 

WAR is not a good comparative to use for Miller since as a reliever he is deployed only opportunistically and strategically. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Give me Bednar and Keller for Liranzo, Anderson and Hamm.

Dont trade any of Clark/McGonigle/Rainer/Briceno under any circumstances.

I’m not super interested in acquiring another bat among those who are on supposedly on the block.

Pirates say no. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

What’s Atlanta doing?  They are so out of it and have many valuable pieces.  I haven’t heard many of their guys mentioned in deals.

Why would they trade those guys?  They aren't going through a rebuild. They have many good players. They should be right in the thick of the playoff race.  They should be trying to add a few pieces for next season 

Firing their manager would be a great start for them.

Posted

It's always a can't miss prospect and 3 other amazing guys traded for a mlber.  Usually ends up as 3 guys who did nothing in the majors and an average dude.

Remember how the Marlins fleeced us in the Cabrera trade?

Posted
4 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Why would they trade those guys?  They aren't going through a rebuild. They have many good players. They should be right in the thick of the playoff race.  They should be trying to add a few pieces for next season 

Firing their manager would be a great start for them.

Or fire their medical staff.  

Don't really know if they are at fault, but their pitching staff has been hit hard with injuries.

Posted
24 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

Padres are looking for a Catcher. Could they pry Adley Rutschman from Baltimore? I could see them doing a Cease for Rutschman type deal and some prospects. Adley's underlying numbers show that he's do to be a monster the 2nd half of the year. Just extreme bad luck this year is producing his poor numbers......  Although I guess Joey Bart is also out there.... Will be interesting for them as I don't know too many teams that need a Catcher at the moment. 

If he's due for a monster rebound, why would they trade him?  Do only fans on a message board have access to this info?

They aren't trading Rutschman.

Posted
1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

Or fire their medical staff.  

Don't really know if they are at fault, but their pitching staff has been hit hard with injuries.

How does a medical staff make guys not have injuries?  They aren't wizards.  Guys blow their elbows and shoulders out all the time and there is nothing you can do about it.

Posted
6 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

If he's due for a monster rebound, why would they trade him?  Do only fans on a message board have access to this info?

They aren't trading Rutschman.

I think he's been on the market. They also have Basallo waiting in the wings and just drafted two catchers with their first two picks. One  of those draft picks was a College Senior who should be ready next year. If they can get something good for him, I think he could be moved. They have a lot of depth and he still has value. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

How does a medical staff make guys not have injuries?  They aren't wizards.  Guys blow their elbows and shoulders out all the time and there is nothing you can do about it.

This is where the science of whatever the science is called it is were they track athlete performance (kinesthetics?) meets medicine.  You need people who know how much stress is being inflicted on the athletes body and how to manage that.  Supposedly the Tigers are decent at this but the injury bug has been kicking our ass too. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Remember how the Marlins fleeced us in the Cabrera trade?

getting Fister from Seattle set the Tigers back a generation, even though I cannot recall any of those 4 guys names

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

How does a medical staff make guys not have injuries?  They aren't wizards.  Guys blow their elbows and shoulders out all the time and there is nothing you can do about it.

It wasn't a serious post.  Just a comment about how it's hard to manage a team when everytbody is hurt.  

Edited by Tiger337
Posted
24 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Why would they trade those guys?  They aren't going through a rebuild. They have many good players. They should be right in the thick of the playoff race.  They should be trying to add a few pieces for next season 

Firing their manager would be a great start for them.

I’m not saying they fire sale but why aren’t they shopping Ozuna or Iglesias.  Neither are going to be back next year.  

Ozzie Albies struggles this year brings his future into question even as Atlanta has affordable team options the next 2 years on his deal.  

Drake Baldwin looks like their catcher of the future and that makes Sean Murphy expendable.   

Posted
5 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

getting Fister from Seattle set the Tigers back a generation, even though I cannot recall any of those 4 guys names

How can you forget Casper Wells? Someone was going to fight his dad if I remember correctly. 

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