2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[Edman85]

For a front office that is so tough to deal with, they sure made a lot of trades (8) with several different teams (7) leading up to the deadline.

[monkeytargets39]

Difficult to deal with must mean not wanting to part with a top 75 prospect for a 31 year old reliever.

[lordstanley]

 

[Tenacious D]

Cody is a pretty negative dude most of the time.  Just needs to get laid.

If Harris and Avila represent a spectrum of being difficult to trade with, Im on Team Scotty.

[lordstanley]

Red Sox and Breszlow hard to deal with too, lol.  Other GMs must be so sensitive  

 

[LongLiveMaroth]

Difficult to deal with aka stuck with their valuations of their players and those on the block, and didn't budge. Sounds like the same execs that complained last year about the Flaherty trade. I think, given the last year and the overall results of the team and farm, Harris would have earned some trust from this fan base. They had a plan and executed on that plan.

It reminds me of the draft where they selected players who may not have had the circuit track record of others but they saw something they liked and went with it. I am good with that. Finding an edge or what you believe is an edge and going with it. It may not work, but I like the creativity. 

Overall I would have preferred other players but it sounds like Pirates wanted Briceno for Bednar which I just wouldn't do either and I am guessing other teams were also asking for similar from us. 

[RatkoVarda]

Stroman fell just 101 innings short of triggering $18M player option for next year.

[Tiger337]

44 minutes ago, Shelton said:

I think it’s close to 50/50 that they are an early out. If only they had made some other moves, they could be 50/50 to advance out of the first round. 

I was just going to post something similar.  

[IdahoBert]

Being an early out can happen to team. Just ask the Seattle Mariners.

[IdahoBert]

I think this whole thing about Scott Harris being “hard to deal with” is that he doesn’t play by the rules many others adhere to and since he doesn’t obey it irks them. The Tigers are doing something different other teams don’t understand.

There are those who merely understand “big guns“ and more of them as the beginning and the end of it all.

But it’s really a question of  the difference between a “frontal assault“ that is merely additive, and an “asymmetrical war position” which identifies unique strengths, and exploits weaknesses in other teams leading to an advantage. 

It’s sort of the difference between merely adding more cheese to an omelette and thinking you’ve accomplished something, and adding chopped onions and peppers and some curry powder and changing plans to make a quiche instead.

It’s the difference between Guy Fieri and Anthony Bourdain. 

[gehringer_2]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

Do you think Harris is likely to keep Kahnle to save face even if we have better options in-house?

Nope. So far I haven't gotten much sense of that kind of ego from him - all his moves seem 'cold' (i.e. rational). If anyone in the org may have a bit of weakness in not wanting to admit he's wrong about players, I think it would be Hinch - but it's not a necessarily a bad dynamic for there to be a little good/cop bad/cop between the players and the manager vs GM - keeps each other honest.

[Toddwert]

nevermine--- the hivemind has spoken 

Edited 13 hours ago by Toddwert

[Toddwert]

2 hours ago, Shelton said:

I would love to know your current thoughts on tipping culture. 

let him pull his tip card  out 😉

Edited 13 hours ago by Toddwert

[Edman85]

Before I post the results, I gathered the following for every major league reliever acquired in the week leading up to last year's deadline:

• Win Probability Added (WPA) before the trade.
• WPA for the acquiring team (regular season).
• Postseason WPA
• The Athletic's Trade Grade for that trade

Ranked by postseason WPA, any guesses roughly what the leader's total ended up being? What about second place (a bit of a hint that the leader was something of an outlier). I'll post later tonight. Note, I focused on WPA because I really don't like WAR for relievers and wanted to look at how they affected the team's postseason fortunes.

[Hinchman11]

4 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Upgrade for 3rd base? Too expensive. The better relief pitchers? Too expensive. Scott Harris played his first trade deadline as a buyer terrified that any prospect he traded may someday turn into an All Star. Apparently, we need several middle infield prospects, because, you never know. But scraping the bottom of the barrel got us pitchers with 4.50 ERA'S to replace pitchers with 4.65 ERA's. 😅

Suarez is definitely an upgrade, I don’t think it’s as substantial  to give up controllable assets for 12 plus weeks of play. 
 

 

[Longgone]

45 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

nevermine--- the hivemind has spoken 

It was never mine

[chasfh]

23 hours ago, chasfh said:

I’m pretty sure we got [Morton] to start and not for anything like long relief. If anyone is a odd man out, it’s probably going to be Melton, at least until Morton shows he doesn’t have it anymore.

So I read something today that I missed the first time around, I guess, and makes more sense than anything else: perhaps one reason why we didn’t buy ourselves a fire-breathing strikeout reliever at the deadline is because Scott Harris thinks Troy Melton might be that guy. And that does make sense, since he did strike out something like 13 batters per nine in Toledo. So sure, why not give him a try there?

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Hinchman11 said:

Suarez is definitely an upgrade, I don’t think it’s as substantial  to give up controllable assets for 12 plus weeks of play. 
 

 

Yeah, what's done is done. If he does good the next couple of months, we could always sign him. I also would have preferred better pitching but again, other teams apparently outbid us. We're not sure what was asked or what the Tigers offered.

[Sports_Freak]

27 minutes ago, chasfh said:

So I read something today that I missed the first time around, I guess, and makes more sense than anything else: perhaps one reason why we didn’t buy ourselves a fire-breathing strikeout reliever at the deadline is because Scott Harris thinks Troy Melton might be that guy. And that does make sense, since he did strike out something like 13 batters per nine in Toledo. So sure, why not give him a try there?

No. Counting on a rookie in high leverage situations? That would be fine on a rebuilding team but not on a team playing for a championship. I doubt Hinch will even use him as a setup man. Prolly try him out in a 6th to 7th inning situation.

[Shelton]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

So I read something today that I missed the first time around, I guess, and makes more sense than anything else: perhaps one reason why we didn’t buy ourselves a fire-breathing strikeout reliever at the deadline is because Scott Harris thinks Troy Melton might be that guy. And that does make sense, since he did strike out something like 13 batters per nine in Toledo. So sure, why not give him a try there?

Yeah. I thought it was a bit condescending for Scott to suggest he needed to get Morton so that he could do that with melton. Melton as RP was always a thing. Just use Montero? 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Shelton said:

Yeah. I thought it was a bit condescending for Scott to suggest he needed to get Morton so that he could do that with melton. Melton as RP was always a thing. Just use Montero? 

I think Morton is a better pitcher than Montero, especially lately. But if Morton breaks a hip while on the mound, Montero can be the backup starter.

[Shelton]

6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think Morton is a better pitcher than Montero, especially lately. But if Morton breaks a hip while on the mound, Montero can be the backup starter.

Either way. I don’t have a strong opinion between the two. But we didn’t need Morton to use Melton as a RP. Acting like trading for Morton was the same as trading for a shutdown leverage arm was preposterous. 

[Tiger337]

Preposterous is the word of the day.  

[Cruzer1]

20 hours ago, Edman85 said:

I think it was Keith Law who made the Hornsby comparison, not Longenhagen. He was mostly joking.

You're right. That's why I said sheepishly.