Jason Benetti = Mario Impemba

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, 1776 said:

You have officially been removed from my Christmas card list. 🫩

That’s fine, although that was not me saying that. That was me in character. 

[gehringer_2]

56 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And that’s also why we like Dan. Dan is a boomer, so Dan is all business on the job

I have only two nits to pick with Dickerson that irritate me in the way he covers a game. The 1st is his tendency to doom fix on early high pitch counts. It often ends up irrelevant. Note it once and move on till it actually comes into play.

The other is when a Tiger player or the team isn't playing to some expected outcome, he'll harp on how unusual it is - for instance if Skubal walks a couple. It comes across to me as sort of whingey. Again once, or twice is enough, but he can get into a real rut over it. Because it really doesn't matter if it's outlier behavior if it's what's happening, so again, past performance irrelevant to progress of the game at hand. No point in the repetition about the fact the player doesn't usually do what he's doing/did. We get it but he did it.

Not the worst stuff in the world, but peeves for me.

Edited Thursday at 03:10 AM by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

I like Jason and I’m fine with whomever they pair him off with but when two days in a row, they had an intrusive discussion about the players walk-up music I switched over to the radio feed.

There are times when I just want to know what’s going on with the game even if I can see what’s going on. Although I am technically old, I am not old and a fuddy duddy to boot.

I like a lot of the cultural references and the friendly banter but there’s times where the game is more interesting and sometimes I just switch over to Dan for that reason. 

I never understood the fascination with player walk-up music.  It just plays for a few seconds. Why should I care?

I know that makes me worse than a boomer.  

[gehringer_2]

12 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I never understood the fascination with player walk-up music.  It just plays for a few seconds. Why should I care?

I know that makes me worse than a boomer.  

I think this is mostly an 'in the park' thing. Most fans see most games on the Telly, and there it doesn't compute. I am almost always (~90%? )unaware of hearing any of the walk-up audio on a broadcast. In the ballpark it's very in your face.

[IdahoBert]

6 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I never understood the fascination with player walk-up music.  It just plays for a few seconds. Why should I care?

I know that makes me worse than a boomer.  

I only watch games on TV or listen on radio where crowd noise is muted anyway, so I never notice walk up music in the background.

Actually, the less I know about athletes musical taste is all the better. No one would like my walk up music either.

My walk up music would be something like Hendrix’s Voodoo Child (Slight Return) or The Clash’s I’m so Bored of the USA, because I’m the kind of boomer other people‘s parents used to warn their children about. Grrr!

[Tenacious D]

I realize this probably shouldn’t matter, but I haven’t thought the same about Dan after his rant against a caller on a podcast who suggested the Tigers could consider Trevor Bauer via free agency.  His rant was irrational, and as it turns out, erroneous.  I’m no Bauer apologist, but he became unhinged. Came across a bit sanctimonious to me.

 

[oblong]

That made me like him more.

If Bauer had a case he could sue. He hasn't.  There's a reason no MLB has gone after him to help their club.

 

 

[Edman85]

11 minutes ago, oblong said:

That made me like him more.

If Bauer had a case he could sue. He hasn't.  There's a reason no MLB has gone after him to help their club.

 

 

Agree. Dan clearly knew more than the public in that regard. A lot of "what isn't true" adjudication comes from a very aggressive PR effort by Bauer's camp to muddy the waters. Yes, some of the allegations have been thrown out, but not all of them. There is clearly some there there.

Edited Thursday at 11:08 AM by Edman85

[romad1]

I really like the fact that Benetti is from a world outside of SE Michigan and has tastes and appetites of the Ann Arbor/Mike Tirico set and not the Madison Heights/Mario Impemba set. 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

I have only two nits to pick with Dickerson that irritate me in the way he covers a game. The 1st is his tendency to doom fix on early high pitch counts. It often ends up irrelevant. Note it once and move on till it actually comes into play.

The other is when a Tiger player or the team isn't playing to some expected outcome, he'll harp on how unusual it is - for instance if Skubal walks a couple. It comes across to me as sort of whingey. Again once, or twice is enough, but he can get into a real rut over it. Because it really doesn't matter if it's outlier behavior if it's what's happening, so again, past performance irrelevant to progress of the game at hand. No point in the repetition about the fact the player doesn't usually do what he's doing/did. We get it but he did it.

Not the worst stuff in the world, but peeves for me.

High early pitch counts lead to early delving into bullpens, which changes the color of the game. I’ll allow it.

The second one, I think that’s in the interest in educating listeners since a lot of listeners are too casual to know one way or the other.

[CMRivdogs]

PBP is mostly background/white noise to me. I'm usually doing a couple of other things at the time. 

I like Jason, Mario was like eating Vanilla ice cream. Jason is Mint Chocolate Chip with vanilla wafers on the side

[romad1]

1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said:

PBP is mostly background/white noise to me. I'm usually doing a couple of other things at the time. 

I like Jason, Mario was like eating Vanilla ice cream. Jason is Mint Chocolate Chip with vanilla wafers on the side

I'd want to go to the ballgame with Jason.  I'd find going to the game with Shep to be a little bit of work.  Kinda like having to explain the dropped 3rd strike rule to my wife for the 40th time.  

[CMRivdogs]

Just now, romad1 said:

I'd want to go to the ballgame with Jason.  I'd find going to the game with Shep to be a little bit of work.  Kinda like having to explain the dropped 3rd strike rule to my wife for the 40th time.  

Jason's conversations sound a bit like mine and my son's when we go to a game. Used to drive my wife a bit crazy then. She's actually come around from the days when she managed the teams' radio networks and really wasn't into sports

[chasfh]

8 minutes ago, romad1 said:

I'd want to go to the ballgame with Jason.  I'd find going to the game with Shep to be a little bit of work.  Kinda like having to explain the dropped 3rd strike rule to my wife for the 40th time.  

I like talking about the dropped third strike rule. It’s related to why catchers get the putouts on strikeouts. I’m in the minority who want to keep the rule as is.

[romad1]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I like talking about the dropped third strike rule. It’s related to why catchers get the putouts on strikeouts. I’m in the minority who want to keep the rule as is.

The point being that Shep expected everyone to explain the game to him. 

[chasfh]

49 minutes ago, romad1 said:

The point being that Shep expected everyone to explain the game to him. 

I know, I was just building on what you said in another direction.

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I know, I was just building on what you said in another direction.

another minor quibble with Shep but one which I feel like pointing out.  "Spit on it" is a dumb phrase for taking a pitch.  I know its probably something he heard around a batting cage.   I have heard all of them use it including Jason.  

I prefer they say what I always told the girls in the 10U level when they were getting coach pitched (they are allowed 5 soft tosses from their coach at that level locally) "be a smart investor, reject the first offer!" 

[holygoat]

IMO, Shep's biggest issue was that he's just way to intense of a person to call baseball games. He doesn't seen capable of dialing it down below, say, 7 out of 10, and the majority of a typical baseball game sits between 3-6 on that scale. His natural setting is calling basketball games, which he's quite good at, I think. 

[Tenacious D]

10 hours ago, holygoat said:

IMO, Shep's biggest issue was that he's just way to intense of a person to call baseball games. He doesn't seen capable of dialing it down below, say, 7 out of 10, and the majority of a typical baseball game sits between 3-6 on that scale. His natural setting is calling basketball games, which he's quite good at, I think. 

He came across as an empty suit with an announcer voice.

[gehringer_2]

52 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

He came across as an empty suit with an announcer voice.

yup. You are going to spend a lot of time with the announcers of your baseball team, they need to be real people with identities, ideas of their own, hold a conversation with their booth mates like an equal, project their own personality connecting to the audience. Shep didn't think any of that was his job. That's why he no longer has it.

Benetti may go overboard a little, but at least he is there as himself and as a full partner.

[holygoat]

4 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

He came across as an empty suit with an announcer voice.

Totally. There's so much empty space to fill during a baseball game that isn't there in basketball, which is why a guy like Shep works in the later so much better than the former.

[Edman85]

2 hours ago, holygoat said:

Totally. There's so much empty space to fill during a baseball game that isn't there in basketball, which is why a guy like Shep works in the later so much better than the former.

Guess what. Benetti is great at basketball too.

[RandyMarsh]

While I didn't particularly like Shep I never hated him either, to me when it comes to baseball on TV I really don't pay that close attention to the lead announcer. I notice the color/analyst way more cause they are the ones that are trying to provide the inside information. Hearing guys like Morris talk about how they did it in their day is far more irritating to me than whatever the lead announcer does or says. 

[CMRivdogs]

12 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

He came across as an empty suit with an announcer voice.

Shep is best suited sitting in a studio giving score updates. Nothing more

[holygoat]

4 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Guess what. Benetti is great at basketball too.

It's wild. I feel like people think I'm saying Shep is better than Benetti, when it's clearly the opposite of that.