NFL General Comments 2025 Season

[GalagaGuy]

JJ with the 4th quarter comeback.  Two passing TD's and one rushing.  

[Sports_Freak]

The Bears came out with emotion but the lack of talent caught up to them. I'm not sold on Caleb, he misses wide open receivers too often.

[Hongbit]

Ben with a huge coaching error at the end of his first game.  Not a great start for boy wonder.  
 

Need to either try the onside or kick it out of bounds.  Can’t kick it deep with only 1 timeout under 2 minutes.  

Edited September 9 by Hongbit

[Nate7474]

14 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Ben with a huge coaching error at the end of his first game.  Not a great start for boy wonder.  
 

Need to either try the onside or kick it out of bounds.  Can’t kick it deep with only 1 timeout under 2 minutes.  

Pretty sure you can just make them redo the kick. The only play was to kick it out the back. The kicker tried and feel short. The big problem was Williams not getting in on his run and also missing a wide open receiver. 

[Motown Bombers]

[RedRamage]

11 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Ben with a huge coaching error at the end of his first game.  Not a great start for boy wonder.  
 

Need to either try the onside or kick it out of bounds.  Can’t kick it deep with only 1 timeout under 2 minutes.  

Can judge BJ on one game anymore than you can judge Campbell on one game. I seem to remember a lot of people thinking Campbell was in over his head his first year in Detroit.

(Not saying Johnson will or won't be a good coach... just saying it's too early to judge.)

[Hongbit]

48 minutes ago, RedRamage said:

Can judge BJ on one game anymore than you can judge Campbell on one game. I seem to remember a lot of people thinking Campbell was in over his head his first year in Detroit.

(Not saying Johnson will or won't be a good coach... just saying it's too early to judge.)

I agree you can’t judge him on one game.   I can point out that he made a coaching error in this game.  

12 hours ago, Nate7474 said:

Pretty sure you can just make them redo the kick. The only play was to kick it out the back. The kicker tried and feel short. The big problem was Williams not getting in on his run and also missing a wide open receiver. 

Time doesn’t start until someone touches the ball so declining a kick out of bounds penalty will only result in them having to doing the same thing with the same time on the clock.    They could do this a few times before the ref would declare an unfair act and penalized the receiving team.   Kickoff OB was a better option. 

Timewise, the onside kick would’ve done essentially the same thing as happened by the deep kick that was returned.  They would’ve had a least a slight chance to recover it.   I think that also would’ve been a better option. 

Santos isn’t know for a booming leg. I don’t think kicking out of the endzone is something you can ask him to do with high confidence.   Even more now as kickers are spending all their practice time trying to take something off it to land the ball in the field of play.  

[sagnam]

3 hours ago, Hongbit said:

I agree you can’t judge him on one game.   I can point out that he made a coaching error in this game.  

Time doesn’t start until someone touches the ball so declining a kick out of bounds penalty will only result in them having to doing the same thing with the same time on the clock.    They could do this a few times before the ref would declare an unfair act and penalized the receiving team.   Kickoff OB was a better option. 

Timewise, the onside kick would’ve done essentially the same thing as happened by the deep kick that was returned.  They would’ve had a least a slight chance to recover it.   I think that also would’ve been a better option. 

Santos isn’t know for a booming leg. I don’t think kicking out of the endzone is something you can ask him to do with high confidence.   Even more now as kickers are spending all their practice time trying to take something off it to land the ball in the field of play.  

Agreed that you can’t judge him on one game. They played ok in the first half. Caleb had some bad misses, but had some good throws too. The second half was the Vikings playing more to their talent. The better team won.

They would penalize the kicking team for kicking out of bounds repeatedly. Repeatedly committing a penalty on purpose can have consequences. I’m not sure what this one would be, certainly not granting a TD like in the Eagles Commanders game last year, but it wouldn’t be detrimental to the team not taking committing the penalty. 

If you can’t kick it out of the end zone then I suppose the onside kick is equal. You will be giving up a significant amount of field position when you get the ball back. Also, you would need to fair catch the pooch punt or risk it dying in play losing more time, so you can’t hope for a touchback from rolling into the end zone.
 

Not being able to kick out of the end zone is the issue here. Maybe their punter has a bigger leg but they’ve never worried about it before? Anyway, it’s not a fireable offense for not having someone who can kick the ball through the end zone, but it does take an option off the table in the rare scenario you really need it.

Edited September 9 by sagnam

[4hzglory]

49ers cut Moody.

[sagnam]

On 9/9/2025 at 12:40 PM, Hongbit said:

I agree you can’t judge him on one game.   I can point out that he made a coaching error in this game.  

Time doesn’t start until someone touches the ball so declining a kick out of bounds penalty will only result in them having to doing the same thing with the same time on the clock.    They could do this a few times before the ref would declare an unfair act and penalized the receiving team.   Kickoff OB was a better option. 

Timewise, the onside kick would’ve done essentially the same thing as happened by the deep kick that was returned.  They would’ve had a least a slight chance to recover it.   I think that also would’ve been a better option. 

Santos isn’t know for a booming leg. I don’t think kicking out of the endzone is something you can ask him to do with high confidence.   Even more now as kickers are spending all their practice time trying to take something off it to land the ball in the field of play.  

Turns out kicking out of bounds would have been the correct move.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/vikings-could-not-have-forced-re-kick-of-deliberate-kick-out-of-bounds

 

[Jason_R]

I wonder if Washington knows they are allowed to cover Tucker Kraft. 

[lordstanley]

Packers looking good. 

[Jimbo]

Right now Packers look like the best team in our division and possibly the NFL.  A lot can happen in the NFL throughout the year (injuries, other teams figuring out there weaknesses, ....etc) although there defense looks dominant and Love looks on point.  They don't have as difficult schedule as we do (especially early on) but its not an easy schedule.   If they maintain this success throughout the year, the Parson's trade was an absolute success.  Which is different than what I originally thought.  The fact that this team is as young as it is will definitely help with not having their 1rst round pick the next two years.  We have a tough division, especially if JJ is for real.  Ben taking over the Bears scares me although until proven wrong, I am not sold on Williams.  Lions are going to have to be on point this year and not have injury problems if they even want to make the playoffs.  They better figure stuff out soon or its going to be a long season.  This isn't panicking, I am not jumping off the Lions hype train (I am still fully on board even if they have a down year).  This is just being realistic.

Edited September 12 by Jimbo

[Hongbit]

Michael Penix has played absolutely atrocious tonight and f-face can’t stop going on and on  about how great he is.   

[Sports_Freak]

JJ looking shaky at home. He really looks gunshy, typical rookie-like play, that missed season really hurt his early development. Not impressive...

[lordstanley]

Za'darius Smith did alright for the Eagles, as written up by ESPN.com

Most surprising performance: Newly acquired edge rusher Za'Darius Smith made the most of his limited role, posting four tackles, three stuffs and half a sack. Smith, an 11-year veteran, signed with Philadelphia last week and immediately helped a group that was held without a sack against the Cowboys. -- Tim McManus

[RandyMarsh]

I just have to give a shout out to the Dallas kicker, that kick he hit to send in to OT was probably the most powerful NFL/college kick I've ever seen. Was halfway up the uprights from 64. Just an absolute missile.

[lordstanley]

 

 

[RandyMarsh]

Carson Wentz always seems to find a way into getting starts, he's like the new Sam Bradford. Of course knowing the luck Minnesota has had with castoffs like Case Keenum, Sam Darnold and the aforementioned Bradford watch Wentz turn into his 2019 self. 

Edited Monday at 07:30 PM by RandyMarsh

[holygoat]

Is it an ankle sprain or an "ankle sprain?"

[Sports_Freak]

Fixed? Houston gets a huge punt return with an obvious block in the back flag thrown. Flag picked up, Houston gets a TD and takes the lead. On the ensuing kickoff, Tampa gets flagged for an illegal block. They didn't pick up THAT flag. Legal gambling makes penaly calls, or non-calls, all suspect. Did the official tell somebody who to bet on? It wouldn't be the first time gambling has infiltrated a sporting event. It didn't work, Tampa won.

[MichiganCardinal]

I’ll be surprised if Jesse Minter is not an NFL Head Coach within 2-3 years.

[Sports_Freak]

Strange stat...10 teams at 2-0 and 10 teams at 0-2.

[Nate7474]

11 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Strange stat...10 teams at 2-0 and 10 teams at 0-2.

And 12 at 1-1…..is it that weird as it seems like that would be pretty normal? 

[Sports_Freak]

Bills to cover the spread.